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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
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| April 21, 2007
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
that quote was actually Cesare Beccaria, quoted by Thomas Jefferson...
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posted on
04/24/2007 12:40:13 PM PDT
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: Enosh
7,302
posted on
04/24/2007 12:40:27 PM PDT
by
tiredoflaundry
(The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
To: Hydroshock
Want a little cheese with that whine?That's the first time I've seen THAT one...........TODAY.
To: politicalwit
Correct.
Back to lurking. Don't post back to me.
I've made my very consistent position clear in hundreds of posts. Nothing new to add. If you're curious, read them.
7,304
posted on
04/24/2007 12:40:59 PM PDT
by
ohioWfan
(President Bush - we will not see his like again.......)
To: Al Simmons
To: agent_delta
Frankly, I don’t give a damn. ;o)
To: Dominic Harr
That abortion is like slavery. No, it's much worse:
GONZALES v. CARHART
Opinion of the Court
Here is another description from a nurse who witnessed the same method performed on a 26½-week fetus and who testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee:
"Dr. Haskell went in with forceps and grabbed the babys legs and pulled them down into the birth canal. Then he delivered the babys body and the arms everything but the head. The doctor kept the head right inside the uterus. . . .
"The babys little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his little feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors in the back of his head, and the babys arms jerked out, like a startle reaction, like a flinch, like a baby does when he thinks he is going to fall.
"The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a highpowered suction tube into the opening, and sucked the babys brains out. Now the baby went completely limp. . . .
"He cut the umbilical cord and delivered the placenta.
"He threw the baby in a pan, along with the placenta and the instruments he had just used."
Thankfully, toleration of this evil is coming to an end.
7,307
posted on
04/24/2007 12:43:15 PM PDT
by
Gelato
(... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
To: RabidBartender
I had to keep it brief. I could go on and on, but it would just be a reason for people to skip it. LOL
To: pissant
I dont know you very well, though we have posted to each other a few times. I've never told you this, but you're one of the funniest people I've ever read. :-D You've made me roflmao on many, many occasions.
Anyway, I know folks like me aren't being banned. JimRob is very fair about that.
The concern I have is, JimRob use to stop people from flaming folks for just having a different opinion. Apparently no more. Lately, I've been ripped a new one several times just for saying I don't think Rudy's as bad as all that. And I've seen others given the same treatment.
FR's greatness, in my opinion, came from it being an open discussion forum where the best ideas prevailed.
But the mob seems to be taking over here, now. I don't find much of that open discussion I use to love. Every single political thread boils down to a flame fest.
7,309
posted on
04/24/2007 12:43:26 PM PDT
by
Dominic Harr
(Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
To: agent_delta
LOL. No apology necessary.......
That would be.....
Well....
Kinda trivial.....
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posted on
04/24/2007 12:43:40 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: Dominic Harr
Well, there was a time, we were considered a serious political discussion site. Since I've been lurking here...it's never been a pro liberal site...it's a pro conservative site..Rudy is not a conservative.....you seem to be misinformed on the purpose of FR..... Have a nice day...
To: No.6
To: Hydroshock
I wonder if he’s any relation to Don “No Soul” Simmons.
7,313
posted on
04/24/2007 12:44:51 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
To: mkjessup
You have gone to great lengths to defend a former Freeper who threatened both JimRob AND myself
No, I have NOT gone to great lengths. I asked why she was called a crazy liberal. IMO, you are a distruptor to this site and, you are doing it great harm. And you are most giddy about it. Your 'GREAT LENGTHS' is on you, not me.
but you can't refute what we posted to each other, nor can you spin the context into something it isn't.
a little CYA going on, eh?
You have no idea what is in my heart, because you don't know me
What's in one's heart, comes out of the mouth. Your posts speak for you. Strange, how you seem to "know' M. Thatcher" - have you met her?
You don't know a damn thing about my 'traits' pal, and as for disruption?
There is only one way NOT to know, by not reading your post.
but you're all talk, and you got nothing.
Another 'Whew - CYA' time for you. YOUR posts are doing the talking - not me.
To: presently no screen name
No such thing. They don't go hand in hand. It's like some liberals here who claim to be conservative.
I don't claim to know what's in every man's heart. OTOH, any Christian he leads a lifestyle to make the devil smile without shame clearly has something wrong. When I make mistakes, I do at least know that I've made mistakes. Some people think that their evil is good and that true good is evil.
Going back to the earlier point. There are a depressing number of Christians, however, who are theologically conservative but have no clue about the consequences of the goings on in government. One of the most devoted folks I go to church with definitely has his reward laid up in heaven, but the man couldn't tell you who the vice president of the US was if you asked him.
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posted on
04/24/2007 12:45:28 PM PDT
by
JamesP81
(Eph 6:12)
To: Dominic Harr
"I think this sight is changing from an open discussion political forum where the best idea wins. Now it's becoming a 'social conservative action site' where dissenters are treated like something akin to slaveholders."Your joking right? You can't have been here since 98 and never read Jim's introduction about his site.
7,316
posted on
04/24/2007 12:45:50 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
To: No.6
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7,317
posted on
04/24/2007 12:45:52 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
To: SoldierDad
Hell, Giuliani isn’t even close to being Zell Miller!
7,318
posted on
04/24/2007 12:46:45 PM PDT
by
politicalwit
(Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
The name of peace is sweet, and the thing itself is beneficial, but there is a great difference between peace and servitude. Peace is freedom in tranquility, servitude is the worst of all evils, to be resisted not only by war, but even by death.
Cicero
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posted on
04/24/2007 12:47:53 PM PDT
by
Knitting A Conundrum
(Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
To: cicero's_son; Knitting A Conundrum
I was seriously asking a serious question, which you ignored. In this response, you say
it's ok to respond to annoying posts with an "UYA." So I ask again, what part of Knitting A Conundrum's post did you find "annoying"?
Knitting A Conundrum said: Freedom is a possession of inestimable value.
What annoys you about that? Freedom? value? posessions? or inestimable?
What in that comment annoyed you so much that you felt necessary to respond with profanity?
You say it annoyed you, so tell us why? Because I see nothing annoying there, and can't imagine why and conservative, or for that matter any american, would find that statement annoying.
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