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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: MountainFlower

You know, I was looking around for quotes about patriotism today, and it’s almost impossible to find modern things about patriotism that aren’t salutes to the military.

What’s wrong with our society, when we think that the only patriots should be military patriots?

All of us who care about our nation should consider ourselves patriots.


6,381 posted on 04/23/2007 10:15:00 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SittinYonder
Where do you see your post and thread count?

I've been curious about mine for some time.

6,382 posted on 04/23/2007 10:15:12 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I just hate change.

With every change brings new opportunity.

6,383 posted on 04/23/2007 10:15:54 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: del4hope

LOL!! Been there, done that!! Lost the t-shirt!


6,384 posted on 04/23/2007 10:16:04 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: Twink

Welcome to FR.


6,385 posted on 04/23/2007 10:16:26 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Knitting A Conundrum; All
Pig-huntin' Louzianne style....

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6,386 posted on 04/23/2007 10:16:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Fiddlstix

I Know!
I am finer than frogs hair split in two.
Are you enjoying the implosion?


6,387 posted on 04/23/2007 10:17:10 PM PDT by Feiny (Fruitloops are Gay Cheerios)
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To: SittinYonder

I do, I promise you.

I do a lot of prayer and devotion postings. I also have about 10 ping lists for niche things like crafts and wot threads wildland fire news and gardening.


6,388 posted on 04/23/2007 10:17:13 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: upsdriver

Lots of hating going on in this thread the last couple of nights. It’s been tough to watch.


6,389 posted on 04/23/2007 10:17:55 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Charles Martel
ROTFLMAO!
Good One!
I Love That!
6,390 posted on 04/23/2007 10:18:00 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Ieatfrijoles
Success! Pile it on some more, tell me how you made it so small. < > fill in the blank. Thanks.
6,391 posted on 04/23/2007 10:18:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Charles Martel

I remember that one!


6,392 posted on 04/23/2007 10:18:08 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

And there may very well come a time where we are indeed viewed as Patriots. I thump Mark Levin for a couple of little things here and there, but the guy knows Liberty and being a Patriot!

There’s not much we can do about it, but...I just wanted to throw out that technology has been quite the “lure” if you will in helping create some of our social disfunctions and wrong turns.

Being new...I don’t want to pegged a rambler, so I’ll stop there :)


6,393 posted on 04/23/2007 10:20:43 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: SittinYonder

Nevermind. Found it.


6,394 posted on 04/23/2007 10:21:29 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I don’t know why I thought ES was a female. It was stupid on my part to guess at gender.

It's an easy mistake to make. Look at the way he is ragging on me? LOL, sorry...

I asked for my post to be removed, because of that and because I don’t want to stick my nose into this fight, other than to say backing away from a fight at this point sounds good to me.

Well it probably would have been best to not have posted to this little dustup.

I wish being as you did chime in, that you would have left your post. Oh well, that was your call. And it is still on my computer.

Oh and BTW. I am not fighting. He seems to be fighting to keep from the embarrassment and shame he has heaped upon himself. I am looking for vindication for the horrible lies he said about me. That's all.

6,395 posted on 04/23/2007 10:22:37 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: upsdriver
It's not just the women, either. Some of us men are guilty of encouraging, insisting, accepting, and enabling our women to have an abortion.

The sin is the same, the burden just as heavy.

:O)

P
6,396 posted on 04/23/2007 10:22:47 PM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Now that's fine. For sure.lol
I'm just catching up on this thread for the third time.lol
I think the thread is Comments Censored....
and that's all I'll say for now. lol
6,397 posted on 04/23/2007 10:23:30 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Delphinium
I think he might have given me different names, those are probably some of his favorites. I know I left out quite a few, they were just the ones I see as being jerks to me.

Well, good luck with that, FReeper mafia and all...

Now, could someone please direct me to the nearest witness protection program?

6,398 posted on 04/23/2007 10:24:14 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: del4hope
I find it ironic that no one ever refers to “God’s Choice” in the creation of a child. The spin “women’s choice” seems to usurp God’s will and along with it a total lack of trust in Him for that gift of a child. I pray for the emotional healing of women who realize this after they have been convinced to have abortions. It can be devasting to them.
AMEN.
6,399 posted on 04/23/2007 10:25:36 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Zeroisanumber; eyespysomething
Rudy did that, and it's an accomplishment that I deeply respect.

I'm not going to bash Giuliani. There's things about the man I respect, and reasons I don't think he's right to be the leader of this country.

The United States is not NYC. Other than once in a while on a dumpster, I don't see graffiti - anywhere. Where I live, you just kind of assume that most everybody owns a gun, and most everybody hunts, and most everybody is a God-fearing Christian who doesn't engage in immoral sexual behavior (and if they do, it's with their own wife, and they don't tell anybody about it, and it's OK).

Where I live, we don't need someone with a heavy hand utilizing the power of the federal government to clean things up.

We want the borders protected, because the crime rate in my county has gone through the roof since the illegals moved in.

We want the federal government to do something about the IRS because we're all scared to death of going to prison because we forgot to carry the one (fairtax.org bumperstickers are nearly as commonplace as the Browning logo on the back of cars and trucks).

We want to protect the meaning of words ... like marriage ... even if we can't keep the homosexuals on the streets and MTV from kissing each other in front of our children. It doesn't mean we hate queers, we just don't want them spoiling everything.

We want the "doctors" to stop killing babies because we think it's murder, not a choice, and - as often as not - we know someone who had an abortion and never forgave herself for it.

We want to win in Iraq, and fight Islamofascists wherever we need to.

We want to take pride in our nation, and we really don't want to hear from the Democrats who equate our country with failure or class warfare, because where I live, we've all had tough times but we figure out a way to work through it.

And we want somebody who is going to take meaningful steps toward shrinking the size and scope of the federal government (or as we call it, the Yankee Government), because where I live, we believe that the federal government has grown ridiculously out of control and outside its Constitutional boundaries.

And we don't see a New York Mayor - no matter how good he was after 9/11 - or a New England Governor, or a nut-job from Arizona as being the guys who're going to do it.

We want a candidate who shares our values, and the top three from the GOP don't cut it.

But where I live, we're accustomed to being disappointed with our elected officials.

6,400 posted on 04/23/2007 10:25:39 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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