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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: dmw

This tagline’s for you.


5,921 posted on 04/23/2007 7:18:38 PM PDT by cicero's_son ("Up yours, asswipe!")
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To: MrEdd
If anyone was hurt by my telling the truth about the results of letting Hillary in the White House, so be it.

There have been many 'rocks' thrown on this thread.

None by me.

5,922 posted on 04/23/2007 7:18:53 PM PDT by ohioWfan (President Bush - we will not see his like again.......)
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To: Miss Marple

I didn’t post her FReepmail message. Just alerted the poster she was threatening.


5,923 posted on 04/23/2007 7:19:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: dmw

“rooty tooty club”

I like that. After this day we call “the other sites”, Rooty Tooty Clubs. Now we need a logo and theme song.


5,924 posted on 04/23/2007 7:20:31 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: urbanrights
This country needs a leader to focus on what matters – our security, pride, and prosperity.

Queers fornicating, unborn babies being murdered and all you think about is yourself. Your a weak, weak person.

5,925 posted on 04/23/2007 7:20:48 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: OMalley

I just might do that!! But you sound pretty frisky, already! But if you have a weapon, I better disarm you, shouldn’t I!


5,926 posted on 04/23/2007 7:20:55 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: mkjessup

” ESAD”

Acronym or not. Thats sick. You should see someone about you’re rage.


5,927 posted on 04/23/2007 7:21:07 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Heroic is the wrong word. Too many acts are considered heroic today that I really don’t consider heroic. I apologize for using that word. I admire his leadership during and after 9-11. His words and actions during that attack meant something to me - his speeches were uplifting and filled with pride and a no surrender attitude that seems to be lost almost 7 years later. I admire what he did for NYC as Mayor: cleaned it up quite a bit, more cops, backed the cops when it’s so easy to trash a few that make a bad name for the majority in uniform, and was partly responsible for turning the city around economically too, at least in my opinion.

I don’t agree with his stand on abortion as I’m as pro-life as one can get - I don’t think there’s any reason to murder an innocent baby, and abortion is murder in my mind and heart. I voted once for a candidate that didn’t share my views on abortion (Christie Whitman) - the Dem candidate also didn’t share my views so I voted for the fiscal conservative republican candidate.

I don’t know enough about any of the current republican presidential prospects to make any decision but I do know that I will vote republican unless a dem nominee is pro-life, anti-gun control, pro military/supportive of our troops and our current involvement in Iraq, and not a socialist when it comes to healthcare and our economy, or a secular-progressive, etc. - in other words, I’ll vote for whatever candidate is the most conservative but not sure about the republican primary yet. I like some things about Rudy, some things about McCain, and I don’t know enough about any of the other prospects yet. I know I don’t like anything at all about Hillary, Obama, or Edwards. Not a thing. And I didn’t hate Bill Clinton, I didn’t like him but I didn’t dislike everything about him. Any of them (Hillary, Obama, Edwards) winning P or VP is something that really frightens me. Gore frightens me. Kerry frightens me. More than the other 3. I liked former PA Gov. Casey - he was pro life and the dem party trashed him. He was a dem but I liked him as Gov of my former state.

I have no idea who I’ll vote for in the repub primary (or who will be running by then, it’s too early for me). I need to read/hear/see more about them. I do know that I will support/vote for whomever is against the 5 dems I mentioned. I’ll never vote for someone running 3rd party because it only takes votes away from the 2 party candidates - we’re a 2 party government whether I like it or not - and a 3rd party candidate doesn’t have a chance to win, imo, yet. I wish that weren’t the case but I also wish I were a multi-millionaire so my wishing doesn’t mean much.

My ideal candidate is pro life, anti-death penalty, anti-gun control, anti-universal healthcare, pro military/pro troops, pro family, anti-nanny state, anti welfare (the current system), anti-Union, anti-homo agenda, anti illegal immigration, etc., someone who doesn’t give a damn about what the rest of the world thinks about Americans because my personal view is the world is jealous of our freedoms and economic success and I have little patience with this whole global crap.

I think our major problem is the media and hollywood - they control the show. And we continually allow them to control it. They’re liberal/leftist, anti capitalist as long as it doesn’t impact their income or way of life. Elitist mentality to the extreme. IMO.


5,928 posted on 04/23/2007 7:21:27 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Blackirish
Acronym or not. Thats sick. You should see someone about you’re rage.

Awww, Princess. Did he hurt your widdle feewings? Here, put some ice on it.

5,929 posted on 04/23/2007 7:21:57 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: dmw; Howlin

I’m still reading this thread but have to stop and say how wrong you are about Howlin. Howlin supports Fred Thompson, not Giuliani. And so it goes on FR. I tell ya, this is getting downright embarrassing for FR. Can you imagine what the lurkers are thinking as they read through this thread? FR is starting to look like a clan of cannibals. Republicans aren’t going to stand a snowball’s chance in hell of winning in 2008 if we don’t stop eating our own.


5,930 posted on 04/23/2007 7:22:07 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. HONK!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Which post? 5606 on this thread mentioned no candidates.


5,931 posted on 04/23/2007 7:22:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: cicero's_son
"Why are you so concerned about my tagline?"

I'm concerned about you becoming yet another anti-freeper.

5,932 posted on 04/23/2007 7:22:38 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Chena

“Republicans” are not eating our own. We’re pretty solidly behind Guiliani at this point.

Wingnuts, on the other hand, excel at cannibalism. Fortunately, they represent a tiny, tiny minority within a minority.


5,934 posted on 04/23/2007 7:23:25 PM PDT by cicero's_son ("Up yours, asswipe!")
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To: mkjessup; wolf24
you haven't even been IN this thread, but your first (ahem) 'contribution' is to accuse me of being an ass-kisser.

It's not quantity that matters, it's quality.

And from where I'm sitting, the poster.........

nailed it.

5,935 posted on 04/23/2007 7:23:39 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry. Got it.

I don’t know if you want to add to your anti-Giuliani list that he hired 6 $100K+ bodyguards using public money to drive his mistress to the beauty parlor.


5,936 posted on 04/23/2007 7:23:47 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: dmw

Ooops...I see you realized your error. Forget I ever mentioned it. LOL ;)


5,937 posted on 04/23/2007 7:23:50 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. HONK!!!)
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To: DCPatriot
MadIvan, who was a very good and thoughtful Freeper started that other site....which BTW is too confusing for me to navigate.

I found it very oddly laid out. I couldn't figure out how to look at the latest stuff even with a "latest" button, and I'd search for names and not find them only to see them if I just went into a few discussions. I did better when people gave me direct links. But it isn't the best organized structure. Of course, I found the DU site was horribly laid out as well, but all of them think they have it great and FR is horrible, while I love FR. I think FR is better for people with brains who can remember what they read for more than 5 minutes so they don't need such visual "linkage" in the comments.

5,938 posted on 04/23/2007 7:23:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Blackirish
'ESAD'
Acronym or not. Thats sick. You should see someone about you’re rage.


Oh my, sorry your delicate sensitivities have been offended.

Get a life.
5,939 posted on 04/23/2007 7:24:00 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: wolf24
Are you kidding? When you are engaged in competition to see who can kiss ass the best, you got put all your best material out there!

Is that you Luis?

5,940 posted on 04/23/2007 7:24:02 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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