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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Fiddlstix

Wow, just saw the article on FR that in the California Assembly straw poll - Fred Thompson crushed Giuliani.

1. Fred Thompson: 28 votes

2. Duncan Hunter: 22 votes

2. Mitt Romney: 22 votes

3. Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX): 14 votes

4. Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO): 9 votes

5. (tie) Former US House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA): 8 votes

5. (tie) Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani: 8 votes

6. US Senator Sam Bownback (R-KS): 3 votes
If not mentioned: zero votes


5,541 posted on 04/23/2007 4:27:23 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Hildy
Why do you say I’m smearing Reagan? I don’t care what he did in the movies..that’s my point.

Oh I get your point, you want to use Reagan's acting as a reason to distract attention from Rudy's leftist agenda.

5,542 posted on 04/23/2007 4:29:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Hildy

Don’t mind me, but your undying support for a NARAL/NOW/GAY abortionist loving, gun grabbing liberal is beyond sickening. Trying to reduce one of our greatest presidents ever to Rudy’s disgustingly low level of character just to lipstick your pig is utterly disgraceful.


5,543 posted on 04/23/2007 4:29:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: indylindy

That’s one reason why I did not dare post on that thread.


5,544 posted on 04/23/2007 4:30:23 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: stockstrader; Mia T
Her hatred of Clinton blinded her from any logic. That’s why her willingness to support the candidate who was the biggest Clinton defender and most vocal Clinton apologist was bizarre made no sense at all (especially BEFORE the nomination).

You're tying yourself up like a pretzel trying to analyse Mia, IMO.

1)Her acute hatred for anything Clinton overrides everything else
2)She bought into the idea that among the declared candidates in the GOP, Rudy was the only one that was strong enough to take on and beat the hell out of Hillary Clinton and her rapist husband.

Just because they pointed out that our hero Ronald Reagan was a democrat...was a compromiser who understood why it was necessary to realize gains...they got zotted.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;^)

5,545 posted on 04/23/2007 4:30:30 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Hildy

“Your hero, Ronald Reagan...”

And your hero is a liberal. Sad, pathetic, disgusting...


5,546 posted on 04/23/2007 4:30:43 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: OMalley
Thank you.

young at heart and all of that!

That's the ticket.

5,547 posted on 04/23/2007 4:31:27 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jim Robinson

You’re losing it, Jim. You really are. You just want to ban me so badly, don’t you?


5,548 posted on 04/23/2007 4:32:48 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: dmw; Hildy

The second wave of suicide posters have arrived, I see.


5,549 posted on 04/23/2007 4:32:56 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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To: processing please hold

Woohoo! beauty tips!!

Well the cucumbers worked a little, but the area right around my upper lashes are still poofed and red!! darnit!! so when i go to apply mascara it goes on my lid LOL!! not attractive!!

i thought about those, a few times even! but it sounds uncomforable! and heavy lol

I hear you can buy them, they come all seperate so you can add one lash at a time! do you know how long that would take me?lol! I had contact lenses once, i spent more time peeling them off the bathroom mirror or fishing them out of the sink, then getting them in my eyes!

pelosi blinking lol i see you with 4 inch lashes!!


5,550 posted on 04/23/2007 4:33:12 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: stockstrader

Why did Mia T get banned?


5,551 posted on 04/23/2007 4:33:36 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: Doohickey
Some people have a real problem with social conservatives, the Christian right, or whatever the prejorative is these days.

You're not kidding.

I was recently called a "hater" by a Rudy shill for merely mentioning "judicial redefinition of marriage" as something I opposed.

I was a bit intrigued by the Giuliani option early on ... when it looked like Giuliani might move to the right on abortion and other issues.

But it didn't take me long to figure out that the Rudy movement ... and especially its manifestation on FR ... was all about marginalizing social conservatives in the Republican party.

Why those who despise conservative social values (like many of those banned recently) would want to be a part of such a movement, I understand.

Why some self-professed pro-lifers and social conservatives would want to be a part of it is beyond me.

And why anyone should be surprised that posters noisily shilling for a liberal candidate and attacking social conservatives on a conservative website should be asked to leave ... well, I can't figure that out either.

5,552 posted on 04/23/2007 4:34:02 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: processing please hold

YEah, at heart, im barely legal;) LOL!


5,553 posted on 04/23/2007 4:34:26 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Hildy

Why don’t you go ahead and write your Opus?


5,554 posted on 04/23/2007 4:34:41 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Doohickey

What does that mean? You’re advocating banning anyone who disagrees with you?


5,555 posted on 04/23/2007 4:34:54 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: politicalwit

I’m already gone.


5,556 posted on 04/23/2007 4:35:48 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: Doohickey

“The second wave of suicide posters have arrived, I see.”

Just don’t shoot until you see the ‘whites of their eyes’!

:0)


5,557 posted on 04/23/2007 4:36:12 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: politicalwit
Well, ain't you a sweetheart. :-)

Your fonts have held up well. You don't look a day over 30.

You haven't gotten around to that cataract surgery you were talking about yet have you? lol

5,558 posted on 04/23/2007 4:36:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Hildy

Bye bye


5,559 posted on 04/23/2007 4:36:53 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Hildy
I’m already gone.

Is that your 3rd opus? Or did I miss a few?

5,560 posted on 04/23/2007 4:37:59 PM PDT by bjs1779
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