Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Yeah, well, my weapon of choice is not money. We’ll be knocking him out with his own words and deeds.
Jim, the grunt thinks FR needs a wee bit more credibility. I disagree. However, if you zot this grunt now, the credibility of FR will go through the roof, and the sounds of thunderous applauds will follow.
Great Reagan quotes PoliticalMom. Outstanding!
Yeah, sure. We'll all pitch in and send you a case of Reynolds Wrap.
Mia T. posted a vanity thread where she claimed that if we don’t vote for Rudy, the blood of all the dead babies would be on our hands. Then she said Fred was a globalist DC politician who couldn’t be trusted. It turned out she had posted two other vanity-style threads this month attacking Fred. In one she said denounced his lack of experience while completely ignoring his senate career, and in the other she claimed he was deceiving us and running just to help McCain. She linked both of those into her “what is pro-life” thread, hijacking and spamming her own thread.And she made two posts that were so bad she deleted them.
That is what got her banned.
as everybody can see, I don't claim that her two posts deleted got her banned, I said the entirety of that exchange, of which the two deleted comments were part, is what got her banned.
And as everybody can see, my characterization of her posts is spot-on, and in fact is not like what you mischaracterized MY comments as. Your claims about what I said were inaccurate, and your claims about what Mia did were inaccurate.
But more importantly, anybody reading my paragraph (posted long ago in this thread to peach in an attempt to explain the two bannings I knew about) can see I wasn't attacking Mia, I was simply trying to summarize briefly what happened in the thread in which she was banned. It wasn't an attack, I didn't argue against her points, I was just trying to be helpful.
Apparently you didn't find it helpful, but to jump to calling me a liar over it shows what I mean about how we have lost civility. You read what I wrote, you jumped to conclusions about why I wrote it, you decided I was a bad person, and you posted back calling me a liar and a coward.
So instead of allowing for a civil discussion of the matter which might clear up misunderstanding, your response was meant only to provoke argument and bad feelings.
fortunately, I think I was able to determine the basis of your complaints, and deal with the substantive issues involved, without resorting to a tit-for-tat personal barrage of insults.
I hope we can all learn from this, and see a way clear to discussing issues and disagreements civilly, and without personal attacks and insults.
I saw it. Great minds, yada, yada, yada, but you were first and I forgot to spell check.
Jim, I love ya, guy.
Yes we will have to have sponsors! So as yours i am obligated to say...LOG OFF NOW! lol!!
Actually id make a terrible sponsor, id be too soft! I know, we can nag each other, then feel guilty cuz we are still online and then split a cheesecake;)
Thank you.
I really like that second passage.
AWESOME post!
A real keeper.
I presume that was your opus.
Laugh away. Were he not a demoncrap operative he wouldn’t be so purposely divisive. Deep cover around here is achieved when some newbie joins each of his posts are Norman Lear Archie Bunker quotes. Do you think Norman Lear was trying to do conservatives a favor when he created that stereotypical caricature?
Charles, I think it’s safe to add motzman to the list.
Wrong again.
“Up Yours, Asswipe!”
Oh yeah, the Stankees and the Football Giants are the wipers of ass.
Now enjoy your soon to be Gary Hart Rudy liberal loony tunes.
kevkrom saw the posts. If there was anything significant in those posts, kevkrom would have said so.
Moreover, if those deletions were the ‘banning offense,’ Mia T would have been banned AT THAT POINT. She was not. You are ridiculous.
If there was any connection to the deletions, it is this: Mia T’s and kevkrom’s requests for the deletions brought the controversial thread to the attention of the people who make the decisions to ban. There you have it. The connection.
Now to your silly statement about hypothetical argument. It makes my point. Hang it up, already. You are not helping your cause.
Cut your losses, get some gumption and debate someone who can actually answer you.
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