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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: mkjessup
No, you're not 'curious'

Yes, I am. Truly, I am.

3,661 posted on 04/22/2007 7:47:37 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: 68 grunt; Jim Robinson
Please consider banning this troublemaker as well.

Thank you.
3,662 posted on 04/22/2007 7:48:17 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Registered
I hope you do stick around, your entertainment value is priceless.

Ahhh yes, Freeper 'Registered'.
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I'll be watching YOU. ;)
3,663 posted on 04/22/2007 7:49:39 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Registered
Reagan Man is an obvious Leftist troll. It’s how they operate. Register a “True Conservative” screenname then start factioning people off.

This is my observation, too. He wants nothing but liberal demoncrap domination.

3,664 posted on 04/22/2007 7:49:45 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: La Enchiladita

Don’t post, keep reading or you’ll get more behinder. :-)


3,665 posted on 04/22/2007 7:49:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: rockrr; Registered
Too funny! I remember your posts before you went off the deep end...

Registered is one of the original FReepers and a true FR treasure.
Please tell me when he "went off the deep end" as I've seen no evidence of that.

Just asking.

3,666 posted on 04/22/2007 7:49:55 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Iwo Jima

I’m going to call it a night. But this thread is beginning to sound like, The Crucible.


3,667 posted on 04/22/2007 7:50:05 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: KATIE-O
To think that some here would actually vote for Hillary over a Republican is mind boggling.

Just wanted to remind everybody, now that Katie is gone, that I asked about 2500 comments ago for the name of a person who actually said seriously that they would vote for Hillary.

No names were given, just people who would stay home, people who would support her but not vote for her, people who would want her elected but couldn't bring themselves to vote for her.

You'd think that hearing so many strong conservatives so torn over what to do regarding Hillary would make Rudy supporters at least tread more lightly, or try to figure out how to make him more acceptable.

Instead, they call us names, post over and over with duplicate threads whenever they find some liberal media with nice things to say about Rudy, laugh at us for being stupid and not seeing the "big picture", and say we will be responsible not just for Hillary winning, but also for the blood of the murdered babies, if we don't vote for their pro-abortion candidate instead of a good pro-life leader.

I really got my mind shaped these past two days, as I've been arguing to keep these people on forum, while they have gotten increasingly belligerant. I posted, no I BEGGED every one of them to tell me one thing Rudy did to be strong on the war on terror, to be strong on national security. When Peach said that if we didn't vote for Rudy we'd have Wal Marts and Truck Bombs, I asked her what Rudy's position was on WalMart.

I posted WHY I thought Rudy was bad for our party, and bad for the country, without calling him names, and without calling his supporters names. I took GRIEF for complaining about other people's name-calling. But many of the rudy supporters returned not answers about their candidate, or reasoned arguments refuting my opinions, but personal invective, snide statements, and "facts" that proved the opposite of what they said was the truth.

I trust that those who remain are the saner of the gang. There is NO reason we cannot have civil conversations. I no longer really care if anybody who was banned is let back. They weren't very nice, and I followed them to "their" site and got a rude awakening, like finding that PhiKapMom really DOES appear to be a Rudy campaign operative after all, and that they ARE plotting to attack conservatives (PKM is planning an assault on the character of some poor local Oklahoma republican committeeperson because he supports ROmney instead of Rudy. I serve on a committee, and it's thankless work that doesn't deserve some agitator calling you unethical like she is doing to smear him).

3,668 posted on 04/22/2007 7:51:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: trussell
Yikes...aren’t you worried the bats might come around for the crumbs?

I keep a .38 under my side of the mattress, and I practice a lot. ;-)

3,669 posted on 04/22/2007 7:51:45 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Rex Anderson

No way.


3,670 posted on 04/22/2007 7:52:11 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: La Enchiladita

That came from a 2004 SEC filing for Taser International.
I don’t think the LLC is still operating since Bernie’s implosion, but I don’t know for sure.


3,671 posted on 04/22/2007 7:52:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ohioWfan
Rudy prinicpled? Hell, he's the one that stated he would pay for an abortion for his daughter if she ever wanted one. If you support Giuliani you're no better than him.

BTW...I am principled. I vote for conservatives. Always have, always will and I'll do my very best to keep some unprincipled pro-abortion liberal by the name of Giuliani from hijacking the Republican Platform.

I am in a small minority on this forum.

Yup, the pro-Giuliani crowd is a minority on FR. Doesn't that tell you something? To put it mildly, this is a conservative website as stated by the owner. If we want to read liberal crap there are plenty of websites out there that will be more than willing to accommodate your liberal views.

Do you want "Minority Status" as a poster so no one can disagree with you? You poor, poor minority!!! Hear the violin music?

3,672 posted on 04/22/2007 7:52:45 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: dynachrome

Do we have enough Tombstones to do around? Maybe a mass grave?

Well, hopefully the rest will be more civil and we can go back to having rational discussions of issues. Since they have their own site to be irrational, maybe they can keep their discussions here civil and logical.


3,673 posted on 04/22/2007 7:52:51 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mkjessup
Screw that noise pal. Freeper 'stunned_beeber' signed up just last week and has more on the ball than a LOT of posters who have been here much longer. Don't even try playing that game with me.

are you sure?

3,674 posted on 04/22/2007 7:53:04 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: Iwo Jima
Please consider banning this troublemaker as well.

This is getting ridiculous.

3,675 posted on 04/22/2007 7:53:10 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: Iwo Jima

Who are you again?


3,676 posted on 04/22/2007 7:53:54 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: processing please hold

LOL...then I would guess you are well protected. Good luck. :)


3,677 posted on 04/22/2007 7:53:54 PM PDT by trussell
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To: upsdriver
Yes, exceedingly.
3,678 posted on 04/22/2007 7:54:36 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

FYI Charles, lil Katie has left the building, and is living happily across the way at that RINO website where she opened up an account three days ago, which suggests that her little temper tantrum was completely scripted and premeditated and phony as a three dollar bill.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

How are you doin’? Ready for another night o’ rock n’ roll?

:)


3,679 posted on 04/22/2007 7:54:39 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: calcowgirl

No, he was banned for a while. Maybe a mod got complaints and zotted him, and Jim retrieved him. Disgusting creature, huh?


3,680 posted on 04/22/2007 7:55:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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