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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: don-o; KATIE-O

One of the surest indicators of a liberal is their misunderstanding of fascism and persistent misuse of the term.


3,281 posted on 04/22/2007 5:27:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Czar

Thanks!


3,282 posted on 04/22/2007 5:27:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: stockstrader
PeeWee's personal life isn't anywhere near the TRAIN WRECK that Rudy's is

LMFAO!

3,283 posted on 04/22/2007 5:27:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: KATIE-O

Sayonara.


3,284 posted on 04/22/2007 5:28:08 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: don-o

Eh, I’m not quite sure I’d give it such a high mark. English was great, but the whole “don’t ban me, I’m banning you” was a little weak. I’d probably give it a 7. What can I say? I’m a tough grader.


3,285 posted on 04/22/2007 5:28:32 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: KATIE-O
"To think that some here would actually vote for Hillary over a Republican is mind boggling."

Who on this board said they'd vote for Hillary? I've seen third party, write-in, stay home, but not one poster stating that they'd vote for Hillary. Got evidence?

"You are brainwashed haters who have no tolerance for anyone outside your little fascist circle."

Never thought I'd see someone play the "fascist" card around these parts. ....a favorite word those on the Left inaccurately use to describe conservatives.

3,286 posted on 04/22/2007 5:28:56 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: stuned_beeber

Things that make you go Hmmm........


3,287 posted on 04/22/2007 5:30:17 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: don-o

Katie-O has been banned or suspended.


3,288 posted on 04/22/2007 5:30:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: stockstrader
Who could play Duncan Hunter in a movie?

Well, just about anyone, since practically nobody knows what he looks like. Heh...

3,289 posted on 04/22/2007 5:30:25 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Man50D; don-o; Jim Robinson

Delayed, but long overdue!


3,290 posted on 04/22/2007 5:31:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Man50D

“Katie-O has been banned or suspended.”

Well it IS what she asked for.

Granting wishes is JimRobs calling!

:0)


3,291 posted on 04/22/2007 5:31:28 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Chuck Dent

“When it comes to women, no matter how pro-life they are in philosophy, when push comes to shove, they are all pro-choice. I’ve seen high-level women in the Calif R party basically say that if the party moves any more rightward, they’ll vote D. “

Well then the solution is obvious. Repeal the 19th ammendment!! That would solve alot of our problems!!:)


3,292 posted on 04/22/2007 5:31:34 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: skeeter

Wrong again.

“My side” is the side where folks interact like adults instead of adolescents. You’ll note in all my comments, not once have I mentioned who I do/don’t support in the primaries, mainly because in Indiana it simply doesn’t matter - the decision has long been made by the time our primaries come around.

In fact, you are correct in that both “sides” of this debate need to tone it down.

When I talk about the rudeness of “true conservatives”, it’s a tongue-in-cheek reference to the Buchanan supporters, the Keyes supporters, and the anti Rudy crowd who by and large all seem to have a real problem understanding the concept of reasoned/grownup debate.

Anyone - and I mean anyone who can’t keep it civil, Rudy supporter or not, needs to grow up. You’re not going to win any converts by trying to insult people over to your side.

As an aside - It has seemed to me that many of the pro Rudy folks have gone over the top after getting tired of all the juvenile comments. I may be wrong, but even an adult can only take so much before they snap.

And besides - how stupid is it to be at each other’s throats like this. If a company ran this way, it would go belly-up in no time.

Is that the road we’re headed down politically?


3,293 posted on 04/22/2007 5:31:43 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: vox_freedom

Fabulous post!!! And most of us are with you 100%!


3,294 posted on 04/22/2007 5:32:24 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: Jim Robinson

His sterling character and success as a husband and father?

= = =

Besides that . . . his mother/handlers/cell leader dress him funny. LOL.

I think you are exceedingly right to tell it like it is about Rudy. I’m quite concerned that somehow we’ll beat Shrillery—maybe the court cases or some world event or just creeping awareness of what a crook she is . . .

and then even a lot of Moderates will acquiese to anoint Rudy. He IS a globalist right up there with the rest of them. No doubts.

We must somehow insure Fred Thompson or Hunter . . . which is best . . . get the nomination. I’m just skeptical we can. But we must do all we can toward that end.

You have a better idea?


3,295 posted on 04/22/2007 5:32:53 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Arnold had no coattails in California. Rudy will have no coattails (unless they are democratic).

Not only did Arnold not have coattails, he did not lift a finger to help other Republicans in the race, including the preeminent conservative in the state, McClintock. The only other Republican that won outspent the dumbocrat by 2-1.

Schwarzenegger is the perfect template by which to predict what a Giuliani presidency would be like.
3,296 posted on 04/22/2007 5:32:57 PM PDT by rottndog (Let us NEVER FORGET those that have paid the highest price....that we may live in FREEDOM!)
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To: stockstrader

Really? They caught Rudy beating off in a porn theater? I think I would have remembered hearing about that.


3,297 posted on 04/22/2007 5:33:17 PM PDT by RichInOC (PROUDLY Undecided on '08. Ask me next year.)
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To: DCPatriot
My direct physical experience with illegals has nothing to do with violent gangs. No contact...thank God. I've seen a carefully orchestrated progression of raw illegal to respectable citizen. Seen it so much it's changed the 'face' of the counties in which I service and live. Because our area is one of the wealthiest, it works. The areas that suffer from gang violence have only their own law enforcement to blame. Maybe we should draft Rudy to go around the country cleaing up illegal crime?

You completely ignore the laws that they broke to get here. You completely ignore the mess they make of my border community and others like it as they pass through to travel to your area so that you can pretend that they're respectable contributors to the economy. Have you ever been chased by illegal aliens or threatened by them? Have you had your friends or neighbors killed or beaten by them? Have you had friends and neighbors robbed or kept up all hours of the night defending their homes from the illegal aliens just outside the chain link fence? Have you seen grandmothers having to pack a firearm to accompany her granddaughter to the bus stop? Have you had high-speed chases through your neighborhood as law enforcement chases down illegal aliens? Have you seen the mounds of garbage that illegal aliens leave in my area? Have you seen the crime they leave in their wake? Have you seen them routinely desecrate a Veteran's Cemetary and intrude onto a "secure" military installation? I HAVE! I see it all the time.

3,298 posted on 04/22/2007 5:33:57 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Man50D
Katie-O has been banned or suspended
BOM-BOM-BOM-Another one bites the dust! LOL
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Hey Katie-O? I know you're reading this, so ADIOS TWIT!
3,299 posted on 04/22/2007 5:34:03 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Man50D

Steve walks warily down the street,
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain’t no sound but the sound of his feet,
Machine guns ready to go
Are you ready, Are you ready for this
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat
Chorus

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

How do you think I’m going to get along,
Without you, when you’re gone
You took me for everything that I had,
And kicked me out on my own

Are you happy, are you satisfied
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat
Chorus

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a man
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him
You can cheat him
You can treat him bad and leave him
When he’s down
But I’m ready, yes I’m ready for you
I’m standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
Repeating the sound of the beat


3,300 posted on 04/22/2007 5:34:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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