Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Then isn’t it a bit disingenuous to be determining and declaring who is a “Christian” and who is merely a “X’ian”?
Equally, my friend, I’m sure you understand I mean no personal disrespect. Since you said “Cheers” I guess I won’t respond to your points.
Though disagreeing on most topics, we have co-existed peacefully; but, you know, I have to speak my piece from time to time...:-)
Okay, just one point... Of course, it is collusion between the federal governments and that is morally wrong, as well as the local designations of “sanctuary cities”...(glad you agree on that last one)...:-)
More unsubstantiated lies. Why do you persist in being so dishonest? Is this a case of projection?
RG has already damaged the Pubbie party and the conservative cause in general.
I think he might be a statist, but the socialist label is utterly false. I'm not here to defend him or promote him, but when the currency of this forum is to lie about him, I can either ignore it or point it out.
My feeling is that any candidate should be evaluated for exactly who he is. And that means, leave the lies out of it.
Reminds me of the Buchanan era.
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You don’t know what fun it is to read you.Thanks, Jim, for all the amusement you’ve given me over the years.
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Do I know you?
Define socialism. Please.
You have a point yet it is the xians who, in part, prevent me from being a better Christian. I so reject their hypocrisy that it leaves a bitterness in my heart. Yep, its my problem, but if we all tried to be better Christians there’d be fewer xians.
Either take it up with the one you really have the problem with, or drop it. I guess that’s an unreasonable request. You don’t have the courage to face him, or the self control to stop your little game. So just wander over to your other site, get your back pats, and then go back to the usual fart jokes. Have a nice day.
Sigh, the trouble is that we cannot agree on what is liberal and what is conservative. What I do know is that honesty is a conservative value, and as such, I will not lie to you, Jim or anyone else and pretend that I'm supporting a candidate that I don't support just to remain in good standing on FR. I'm supporting Rudy, I have been for quite some time, and I intend on continuing in that endeavor. If that is enough to now get me banned from FR, so be it.
To thine own self be true and it must follow as the night the day, that thou cans't not be false to any man. --Shakespeare.
And as for doing the 'right thing'...........I most certainly will, as God leads.
God bless you.
Jim, I didn’t miss it. Anybody who reads a newspaper knows he is pro-choice/baby killing. Nobody is exactly coming down off the mountain with the tablets with that bit of information.
I’m not a Rudy supporter yet, he has to win me over or some other candidate has to win me over. My sole experience with Rudy consists of:
a. living in NYC when he was mayor and waking up to my car alarm blaring, looking out the window and watching his goons tow my car away because it was 4 inches over the no parking sign so that they can collect $120 plus towing fees to feather the city treasury.
b. ridding the city of squeegie pests who would try to clean said car windshield after I got it out of the impound yard near the pier.
c. meeting him at a Yankee game during the 1998 ALCS where we had a fascinating 15 second conversation about Andy Petitte’s pitching performance. (federal funding for embryonic stem cell research never came up)
But this idea that he is a Socialist when he cut taxes in a liberal city that never met money they didn’t think was theirs is simply not fair. Let’s be honest here.
If anything, I think that social conservatives would love the fact that he transfromed Times Square from Disneyworld for degenerate adults into...well...Disneyworld.
There are two issues that will turn me off to Rudy. If I ever hear a word about Global Warning or a need to perform social engineering to coerce people to quit smoking and lose weight whether they want to voluntarily or not, he can forget any possible support from me. To me, Global Warming hysteria and Nanny State Behavior Syndrome aren’t a disease in and of itself, they are lithmus test indicating a much more serious disease..what you and I call Socialism.
Do we know you? You said “good bye” as you embraced a RINO. Why are you still posting?
Excellent, Spiff. You nailed the points and exposed the “real world Republican” and her fellow travelers.
One addition: The same crowd extolled the DPW ports deal... uh, in spite of being “national security conservatives” I guess....
Sorry you got confused about that, Spiff.
You brought it up, liar. I'm sure you'd like to back off your slander, but you're a liar.
Never said it, never have. Get a handle on posting. You're way out of line
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