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Killer May Have Showed Appetite for Violence as Child
ABC News ^ | April 21, 2007 | By SHEILA MARIKAR, DAVID SCHOETZ and JAY SHAYLOR

Posted on 04/21/2007 10:11:41 AM PDT by Cinnamon

Though it's unclear if he told anyone about his plans to stage a shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, from childhood, Seung-Hui Cho showed an appetite for brutality, according to a new report.

The Washington Post reports that while Cho was unusually quiet as a child — according to relatives, he refused to respond to greetings and didn't want to be hugged — when he fought with his older sister, Sun-Kyung Cho, his actions spoke volumes. Relatives say he punched her with shocking force.

Despite signs of trouble, Cho's mother didn't seek treatment for him because he did well in school, the Washington Post reports.

But in their first public statement since the massacre, on Friday, Cho's family said that their son "has made the world weep" and that they are now "living a nightmare."

The statement, released to the Associated Press by Sun-Kyung Cho, says the family feels "hopeless, helpless and lost," after the 23-year old Va. Tech senior took the lives of 32 people.

"We are humbled by this darkness," wrote 25-year old Sun Kyung Cho. "This is someone that I grew up with and loved. Now I feel like I didn't know this person … My brother was quiet and reserved, yet struggled to fit in. We never could have envisioned that he was capable of so much violence."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cho; massacre; mentalhealth; parenting; vatech; virginia; virginiatech; vt
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To: Petronski; rightwingintelligentsia
According to the Second Edition of Fowler, “For the p.p. shown has ousted the variant showed.
41 posted on 04/21/2007 12:18:48 PM PDT by dighton
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To: mjp
Both good possibilities. I was thinking some sort of attachment disorder.

Then again, I also think there ought to be a DSM entry that reads, "Just F*$%ing Nuts."

42 posted on 04/21/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Toskrin

What do you call the three cardinal signs of autism? For a small child, I’d say, not taking a social interest in other people, delayed or strange speech, lack of pretend play. Also perseveration.

For an older individual, impaired social abilities and perceptions, and a good deal of perserverative behavior or interests.

Mrs VS


43 posted on 04/21/2007 12:25:40 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Malacoda

Australians being known for plain speaking, you might check their edition of DSM, in the vicinity of “Crazier than a s**t-house rat.”


44 posted on 04/21/2007 12:32:22 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Callahan
What year was he in? A Senior?

With his personality complex, his prospects of finding a job would have been slim and none.

In hindsight, age 23 is perfectly understandable.

He was too ashamed...having an older sister graduate from Princeton.

He just created CHO SYNDROME.

Textbook case.

45 posted on 04/21/2007 12:35:24 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: VeritatisSplendor

The three cardinal signs of autism are limited language development, lack of understanding of socialization, and limited, repetitive behavior. For Asperger’s, the language skills are normal.

Cho’s lack of social skills is clearly what makes people think that he may have had autism. But he expressed hatred for societal behavior, implying some understanding of it, and an acknowledgement that he had poor social skills. And there was nothing at all to suggest that he had repetitive motor behavior or obsessive habits.


46 posted on 04/21/2007 12:42:59 PM PDT by Toskrin (It didn't seem nostalgic when I was doing it)
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To: Cinnamon

Asian kids who immigrate and don’t end up as engineers are weird.


47 posted on 04/21/2007 12:49:07 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: krb
Asian kids who immigrate and don’t end up as engineers are weird.

Many are also in medical and business fields. Not many English majors for sure.
48 posted on 04/21/2007 1:16:05 PM PDT by ribosomal soup
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To: jimt
"I feel first for the victims' friends and relatives, then for the victims, but also for this family. You'd want to crawl into a hole and die."

Spot on Jimt. They were so abusive to him that they were sending him to one of the top universities in the country. This is right up there with the MSM wringing their hands about a possible backlash to the Korean community in the US. Always ready to believe in the small mindedness of their fellow countrymen.

49 posted on 04/21/2007 1:27:07 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Cinnamon

sounds like he may have had some type of autism or aspergers.


50 posted on 04/21/2007 1:32:45 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: Cinnamon
when he fought with his older sister, Sun-Kyung Cho, his actions spoke volumes. Relatives say he punched her with shocking force.

As one of five, I got into rumbles with my siblings and have the scars to prove it.

But nothing is remembered by me as "shocking."

Just because he began this behavior as a child does not mean that its roots weren't evil.

A Bad Seed ?

51 posted on 04/21/2007 1:51:30 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: Cinnamon

IMHO, all the other issues are distractions from a more pertinent issue. The volition of each individual and their responsibility for their decisions and actions is far more consequential than environment, culture, familial ties, genetics, or random thoughts.

The criminal made wrong decisions. They furthered his tendency to make other wrong decisions and ultimately he made wrong criminal decisions fatal to others and himself.

In every instance of Satan falling recorded in Scripture, he is surrounded by perfect environment. Environment isn’t the prevailing factor in criminal behavior. The thinking, volition and decision making of the individual person are the controlling factors in their behavior.


52 posted on 04/21/2007 1:54:07 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
His plan didn’t involve all that much organization. Buy guns, make video, chain doors, kill people.

I don't know why he chose Norris Hall for his attack. However, I remember that Norris Hall had fewer doors than almost any other building at Virginia Tech. Once he set the chains, he didn't have a great deal of time before someone noticed, reported the problem, and discovered his plans. Norris Hall is a building where he could chain the doors most quickly and trap the most people chaining the fewest doors. I don't know whether this factor is why he chose Norris Hall, but I was thinking about the situation for several days before it occurred to me. If he chose Norris Hall for this reason, he was planning very carefully.

Bill

53 posted on 04/21/2007 3:16:56 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Toskrin

What is all this armchair physician diagnosis attempting to diagnos Cho as autistic. Rain man was autistic, my friend’s son is autistic, there’s nothing in this guy’s medical record to remotely indicate he was anything but a psychotic, perhaps borderline schizo with a full blown breakdown coming.

People said he wouldn’t speak to anyone even when someone would say hello.
His rants about his victimization show how out there he was.

That is not autism.


54 posted on 04/21/2007 3:46:50 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Cinnamon
Having read the article, one glaring question remains: Just how did this guy get into Va. Tech? I hope someone investigates the admissions process as well as why criminal charges were not filed for his previous infractions.
55 posted on 04/21/2007 6:24:03 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
They could have said, if you don't get treatment, you don't go to college.

I have a half-sister who is schizophrenic. My parents, educated people, didn't realize what was happening when she couldn't stand being at first one prep school, then another. They sent her to 2 colleges. They didn't listen when my other sisters complained about her behavior toward them and passed it off as sibling rivalry.

It wasn't until she started having paranoid delusions that the college admin asked my parents take her out of school. But you can only make someone get treatment for so long. At some point, they are no longer minors. Sadly, though she might have benefited from treatment, and been able to hold a part-time job, she's 40 and has been untreated for years now, collecting disability. Since she isn't a danger to anyone, you can't commit her and you can't make her get treatment.

I used to do legal work for parents of schizophrenics - work that was hampered because you can't make the mentally ill person try the new drugs (in their paranoia, they see everything you do as a plot against them, or, they believe they aren't sick) or go into residential treatment. It is a nightmare for parents or siblings who are trying to look out for their relative and keep that person off the streets or out of the morgue. I'm sure that many people just give up and hope for the best.

56 posted on 04/21/2007 6:38:42 PM PDT by radiohead (They call me DOCTOR radiohead.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

At church this evening the service was subdued. Opened with prayer for the Virginia Tech victims, also prayer that the school lockdowns and false bomb threats would cease. People are still upset and confused over all this.


57 posted on 04/21/2007 6:45:25 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: Cinnamon
The news media should ban the killer's name from print and the airwaves. Make a blanket statement that they refuse to publish the name of a serial or spree killer in future news stories, and will henceforth refer to him as the Virginia Tech Shooter, not by his real name.

The victims will soon be forgotten, but the public will be forced to remember the a**hole's name like we're still reminded of the names of the Columbine shooters. Stop the publicity NOW.

58 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:56 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: RochesterFan

yup. and how did he get so close to getting a degree in English? judging by his writing... unless they have really brought down the bar on admissions


59 posted on 04/21/2007 9:36:40 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: radiohead

Sorry to hear about your sister. I can’t even imagine how difficult that must be for your family.


60 posted on 04/22/2007 11:41:17 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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