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Va Tech shooter had previous stalking cases
NWCN ^ | 4-18-2007 | staff writer

Posted on 04/18/2007 8:34:50 AM PDT by bedolido

BLACKSBURG, Va. - The gunman blamed for the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history had previously been accused of stalking two female students at Virginia Tech and had been taken to a mental health facility in 2005 after an acquaintance worried he might be suicidal, police said Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: previous; shooter; stalking; va; virginiatech
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1 posted on 04/18/2007 8:34:51 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido

Warning signs SCREAMED in the faces at this school.

And nothing meaningful was done.

The guy should have been expelled and legal actions taken.

No, they coddled him instead.


2 posted on 04/18/2007 8:36:44 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: bedolido

Didn’t see this one coming!


3 posted on 04/18/2007 8:37:33 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: bedolido

I read another article that said the University tried to do something, but its hands were tied legally. Hopefully something will come out of this tragedy and it will be easier for institutions and companies to address this problem.


4 posted on 04/18/2007 8:38:18 AM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

“No, they coddled him instead.”

rewarded him with a 4.0 GPA.


5 posted on 04/18/2007 8:39:22 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Hildy

Exactly what DOES it take to expell a student?

Madness. Utter madness.


6 posted on 04/18/2007 8:39:53 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: bedolido
Giovanni said her students were so unnerved by Cho's behavior, including taking pictures of them with his cell phone, that some stopped coming to class and she had security check on her room. She eventually had him taken out of her class, saying she would quit if he wasn't removed.

Nikki Giovanni is a VERY famous politically correct poet with connections all over the place. Probably the best known person on campus. This is the first I have heard her name mentioned as one of his writing teachers. I can't IMAGINE why the administration didn't pick up on this and expel this nut case.


7 posted on 04/18/2007 8:42:03 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bedolido

I don’t think the school can be blamed in a significant manner. The problem is with the Warren Court closing down the mental health institutions for anyone except those presenting a clear threat to themselves or others.


8 posted on 04/18/2007 8:42:20 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Names Ash Housewares

If he had been at the University I went to back when I Was in College he would have been kicked out after the stalking and harassing of female students happend.


9 posted on 04/18/2007 8:42:27 AM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!)
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I can't IMAGINE why the administration didn't pick up on this and expel this nut case.

Which nutcase are you referring to, the shooter or Nikki?

10 posted on 04/18/2007 8:43:00 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I saw on tv that it got so bad with him that he wasn’t welcome in one of his classes and he had to have a tutor who was also very afraid of him.

Since when is going to college a “RIGHT”???? What about the rights of all the students who do the right thing and have to be around wackos and criminals. Anything for the tuition - grade inflation, tutors, coddling, etc.etc.etc.


11 posted on 04/18/2007 8:43:04 AM PDT by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: bedolido

Stalking...a restraining order would have denied him the ability to buy a gun.

Arson...a felony charge would have denied him the ability to buy a gun.

Then, of course, there is the failure of the psych system to formally identify him as a violent person.

Don’t blame the Virginia gun laws when the failure to abort this nut case belongs to others.


12 posted on 04/18/2007 8:44:34 AM PDT by telebob
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To: Halls
"If he had been at the University I went to back when I Was in College he would have been kicked out after the stalking and harassing of female students happend."

If he had been at the college I attended, back when I was there, he would have had his ass kicked and would have voluntarily withdrawn.

13 posted on 04/18/2007 8:44:41 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Halls
The manual at the local university specifically lists stalking as a punishable event.

http://www.utexas.edu/policies/hoppm/02.A.03.html
14 posted on 04/18/2007 8:44:53 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Cicero

Good grief - she looks just like that very weird “gender-bender” prof with the short cropped blonde curly hair and the long-sleeved shirt, man’s jacket and tie. Same person?


15 posted on 04/18/2007 8:44:56 AM PDT by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: fso301

YEP - what YOU said......until someone HARMS Someone....you cannot do anything, say the laws.....that’s also why there are so many crazies on the streets....and I don’t think “threats” necessarily count....they actually have to do something. Plus, the Privacy issue - they couldn’t talk to his parents.....I’ve been in this situation with a relative - it’s hopeless....and a helpless feeling......and does a disservice to the person and the community.


16 posted on 04/18/2007 8:47:10 AM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: bedolido

Interesting. Adds context. Thanks for posting.


17 posted on 04/18/2007 8:47:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Hildy
What should come out of this tragedy is that the basic notion of a "public institution" -- and the pernicious extension of that concept into private institutions -- should be eliminated permanently.

A private institution would have -- or should have -- been able to toss this loser out of school for any reason whatsoever.

18 posted on 04/18/2007 8:48:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Names Ash Housewares

<< Exactly what DOES it take to expell a student? >>

Oh, it’s not that hard. I’m sure that if he had:

- described homosexuals using a word considered a slur,

- called a female basketball player a “nappy-headed ho,” or

- wrote an email quoting movie dialogue about skinning prostitutes (a protected class) as in the Duke lacrosse case,

then he would have been out on his ear in no time flat.


19 posted on 04/18/2007 8:48:27 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Scotswife
rewarded him with a 4.0 GPA.
 
What???  You're joking, right?  You've GOT to be joking.  I read that " Richard McBeef" play, and there's no way that goofball should have made it out of middle school.  They didn't give him a 4.0.  The fact that he was there at all after 3+ years, without a campus wide restraining order for general stupidity is probably cause for them to lose accreditation.  They couldn't have given him a 4.0, could they???

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.

20 posted on 04/18/2007 8:49:02 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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