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University convocation told of Allah, not Jesus
WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/17/07 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 04/17/2007 5:19:24 PM PDT by wagglebee

Speakers at the Virginia Tech convocation yesterday called on Allah and Buddha in their efforts to minister to the survivors, family and friends of victims of the shooting massacre at the school – but Jesus wasn't mentioned.

It was left up to President Bush to come the closest to offering a biblical message of hope, when he suggested the school community that lost 32 members to the shootings by an out-of-control resident alien student find "comfort in the grace and guidance of a loving God."

But even he didn't bring Jesus, the only hope of comfort and future life for Christians, into the memorials.

"I'm sitting here watching the convocation service at VT," wrote a WND reader who was given anonymity. "Five minutes ago they had four representatives from the local 'religious community.' The Muslim specifically invoked Allah's blessings… and he didn't shy away from saying the name of Allah. The Jewish rep asked for God's blessings. Buddha was represented. The only name that [was] omitted, of course, Jesus Christ."

And another WND reader cited the speakers, in order:

"BUT NOT ONE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN PASTOR/PREACHER. NO INVOCATION OF THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS," the reader said.

"The only thing that surprised me, though, is that they didn't have a rep from the Universal Life 'church' or the 'Church of Satan.' Go figure," said the first reader.

It was up to the president to deliver references to Christianity.

"People who have never met you are praying for you," Bush said. "They're praying for your friends who have fallen and who are injured. There's a power in these prayers, a real power. In times like this, we can find comfort in the grace and the guidance of a loving God."

Most of the other official statements of condolence released also ignored the savior of the Christian faith.

"Today is a day to reflect on our many blessings of family, neighbors, and our Blacksburg community, which includes the students of Virginia Tech," said a statement from the town of Blacksburg, where Virginia Tech is located.

"I urge Virginians to keep these victims and their families in their thoughts and prayers," said Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, a Democrat.

"In time, Americans will learn more about the circumstances of this senseless tragedy. For now and forever after, our hearts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and the other students, faculty and staff of Virginia Tech, and their families," said Sen. John W. Warner, a Republican.

"My heart goes out to the parents and families of the victims of this senseless act," said Sen. Jim Webb, a Democrat.

The school has announced a candlelight vigil to honor the victims of the mass killing Monday. The campus also was ordered closed through this week, and counseling services were being made available to students, faculty and staff.

"We come to express our sympathy in this time of anguish. I hope you know that people all over this country are thinking about you and asking God to provide comfort for all who have been affected," the president told the community assembly.

"May God bless you and keep you and keep the souls of the lost and may his love touch all of those who suffer and grieve," he concluded.

He earlier had ordered U.S. flags to be flown at half staff at the White House, federal buildings and grounds, naval craft and military posts through Sunday.

"Our nation grieves with those who have lost loved ones at Virginia Tech. We hold the victims in our hearts. We lift them up in our prayers, and we ask a loving God to comfort those who are suffering," Bush said in the flag proclamation.

Authorities have identified the shooter as Cho Seung-Hui, 23, a senior English major at the school whose class writings were so disturbing he previously had been referred for counseling.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: apostate; christianity; leftists; massacre; vatech; virginiatech; vtech
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To: wagglebee

I put the blame squarely on the Lutheran Minister. The other speakers were open and talked about their faith but this minister is the one that left out Christ. I also don’t see why people are offended by having a muslim speaker. Christianity is not the state sponsored religion and there’s no reason why a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, or whatever can’t speak.


21 posted on 04/17/2007 5:31:31 PM PDT by TrishaSC (LB: I told ya so!!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

The ladies are as much to blame as the guys. America suffers because it no longer fears God, nor does she teach her children to do so. Read Romans 1. That’s who we are today.


22 posted on 04/17/2007 5:32:09 PM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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To: wagglebee
This is repulsive!

I agree, but not in the way you may think. There was a thread earlier today where many posters ripped apart the convocation. I predict that this thread will be just as full of religious bigotry and unnecessary rude remarks as well.

Have we sunk so low that people in mourning can't even gather for a convocation without the ultra-righteous indignation posse's showing up?

God bless and provide comfort for the victims, their families and friends, and all of us who mourn the loss of their loved ones in this senseless tragedy.

23 posted on 04/17/2007 5:33:05 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. (Kevin McCullough))
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2 John 1

7Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 11Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.

24 posted on 04/17/2007 5:33:21 PM PDT by anglian
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To: wagglebee

**”BUT NOT ONE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN PASTOR/PREACHER. NO INVOCATION OF THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS,” the reader said. **

Or a Catholic priest? Virginia is a heavy Catholic area.


25 posted on 04/17/2007 5:33:32 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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To: wagglebee

My son was born in Lynchburg at Liberty Baptist Hospital, how far is this from this university, why was Jerry Falwell or someone from his church not speaking?


26 posted on 04/17/2007 5:33:42 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: wagglebee

Now if you had a LDS member there I am sure Jesus Christ would have been called upon as the primary source of healing and comfort!


27 posted on 04/17/2007 5:33:54 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: jonsie

Lynchburg is about an hour and a half away.


28 posted on 04/17/2007 5:34:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: restornu

World NUT Daily is throwing fire bombs. I heard Jesus mentioned.


29 posted on 04/17/2007 5:35:36 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: zarf

By the minister?


30 posted on 04/17/2007 5:36:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

We couldn’t even hear the Muslim guy at the stadium. The sound was messed up.


31 posted on 04/17/2007 5:36:21 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TrishaSC

I’m sure the Lutheran minister would not appreciate your suggestion that he “left out Christ”. God was with them all today and His name was spoken.


32 posted on 04/17/2007 5:36:33 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. (Kevin McCullough))
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To: Chena
"Have we sunk so low that people in mourning can't even gather for a convocation without the ultra-righteous indignation posse's showing up?"

hear hear
34 posted on 04/17/2007 5:36:59 PM PDT by ndt
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To: wagglebee

I second your Amen!


35 posted on 04/17/2007 5:37:49 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: wagglebee

We obviously didn’t learn a thing. A tragedy on top of tragedy.


36 posted on 04/17/2007 5:37:53 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: kinoxi

But the speaker did quote the Dalai Lama, and others


37 posted on 04/17/2007 5:38:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Czar

I find your comment to be repulsive. Perhaps the mods would be willing to delete your comment if you request it.


38 posted on 04/17/2007 5:38:36 PM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. (Kevin McCullough))
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To: Dick Bachert

>With Pelosi in the House and Hillary lined up to take the White House, welcome to the new America!<

Not to mention Condi Rice quietly urging Israel to give up more territory for peace!!!! Of course she carries the message of the administration. But Pelosi and Hillary are strident Commie crones we do not need to tolerate.


39 posted on 04/17/2007 5:38:49 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: wagglebee
A strange looking woman said that baby elephants are sad. I really didn’t understand what the hell she was talking about. That’s alright though. Neither did she.
40 posted on 04/17/2007 5:39:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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