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Va. Tech Gunman Named [Murderer Identified]
The Washington Post ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:31 AM PDT by starlifter

Va. Tech Gunman Named

By Michael Shear and Debbi Wilgoren Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, April 17, 2007; 9:36 AM

Virginia Tech officials today identified the Virginia Tech student who killed 32 people and then himself on the Blacksburg campus yesterday as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui of Centreville.

Cho was a South Korean native who had immigrated to this country, the university announced on its Web site this morning. He was a senior majoring in English, and lived in a dorm on campus, officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: vatech; vtech; vtmuders
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To: calcowgirl

in James Fennimore Cooper’s story “The Prairie,” the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe. Each has a symbolic meaning. The axe — which can either kill or provide shelter — stands for both creation and destruction. Given that the VT killer was an English major, might this be the likely meaning of the words on his arm?

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/17/breaking-abc-news-ids-gunman-as-seung-hui-cho/


301 posted on 04/17/2007 10:11:37 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Lazamataz

How about you direct us to the claimed seller’s posts?


302 posted on 04/17/2007 10:11:44 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: bnelson44
in James Fennimore Cooper’s story “The Prairie,” the settler Ishmael Bush, who is attempting to escape from civilization, sets out across the prairie with two key tools, a gun and an axe.

So it's "Bush's Fault" after all?

303 posted on 04/17/2007 10:12:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
You have a first shooting incident where people are killed. do you shut down your campus? No...you keep classes running for two more hours

Easy to 2nd guess. If the classes had been canceled, where would the students have gone? Most of them to their dorm rooms which was where the shooting had just occurred.

Secondly, a college campus is like a small city. You can't just "shut it down". Many of the students don't even have cars to leave the campus. The ensuing panic would allow the gunman to escape anyway.

When there is a shooting in a neighborhood, do the police evacuate the entire city or even the neighborhood?

304 posted on 04/17/2007 10:13:04 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Badeye
Something like 500,000 rounds were fired in WWII for each solider killed. For LEO’s or anyone, sub 50% sounds OK considering light, preparation, both subjects moving...yada, yada, yada.
305 posted on 04/17/2007 10:13:38 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: MIT-Elephant
The website has been overloaded and isn't presently working. A synposis of the comments can be found here: Flopping Aces. I saw the actual comments last night.
306 posted on 04/17/2007 10:16:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Leisler

“Something like 500,000 rounds were fired in WWII for each solider killed. For LEO’s or anyone, sub 50% sounds OK considering light, preparation, both subjects moving...yada, yada, yada.”

Yep.

It will be months, but we will know exactly how many shots this guy fired before killing himself. I’m betting his accuracy...kill ratio...however you want to define it...is very high comparatively.

We’ll see.


307 posted on 04/17/2007 10:17:26 AM PDT by Badeye (Think the GOP will listen to the 'base' in 08?)
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To: staytrue; Gauss
Photos of the victims are here:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

308 posted on 04/17/2007 10:17:39 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Gauss

Yes, all South Korean males serve in the military, but they don’t have guns. They call them stick soldiers because they practice marching with sticks.

But this kid wouldn’t have had to serve as long as he was in school. Most Koreans serve right out of high school.

This kid was nuts, though, on medication, with a history of aberrant behavior that should have caused him to be expelled from school.


309 posted on 04/17/2007 10:18:41 AM PDT by Eva
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To: staytrue

The fact we haven’t heard about a note is interesting. I wouldn’t be suprised if there’s not some sort of Muslim angle on this by tomorrow.

You don’t line trudge across campus to whack strangers in the heat of the moment. How many buildings between West AJ and Norris Hall? It’s not like he walked across ‘The Quad’.

He walked all the way across campus. He’s an English major, but went into an engineering building. Too manu contraditions that make this something other than a crime of passion. Extremely unlikely this is an act of passion.


310 posted on 04/17/2007 10:19:06 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Ignorance should be painful)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Extremely unlikely this is an act of passion.

Then what do you think it is? To me this seems just like other mass shootings - the shooter had some sort of beef with people, their social environment or even society as a whole and finally decided to make as many people "pay" for it as he could and then go out in a blaze of glory.

It's hard to find any organized terrorist motive here.

311 posted on 04/17/2007 10:25:28 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: MIT-Elephant; Lazamataz; Registered; Route66

I read that website last night (as did a few other freepers) just as it went off the air. It looks like the gun-seller did a no-no, as even all of the posts at FR have been deleted that quoted him. Most of the things in that post have now been released, including the exact models of the two guns and the man’s name.

The link was originally posted at post #15 (deleted) and quoted (with info) in post #21 (deleted). I posted at 9:08PM (post #75) that the website had gone off the air. It’s still off the air.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1818508/posts


312 posted on 04/17/2007 10:27:37 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: starlifter
so let me get this straight...

the dude waxes poetic in his creative writing class about how he wants to kill people, VA Tech is so concerned that they send him to counseling, then nobody does anything to protect the rest of the students?

must be bush's fault.

313 posted on 04/17/2007 10:28:25 AM PDT by glad2bdad (If you argue for your limitations, sure enough, they're yours.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
"Cho has been in the states since he was 8 years old though."

Thanks. I was wondering where he got all his "skills". Filing off serial numbers, no ID, high body count. Looks like he was just a psychopath and left a note. He's also got an islamic name and reference as a tatoo. Many of the vics were just laying on the ground when they were shot.

314 posted on 04/17/2007 10:31:24 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Pete; xzins; dragnet2; SirJohnBarleycorn; Rita Hayworth

Ismail is the name of an Iranian Shah from the 16th century. The name appears to be an Arabic derivative of the Hebrew name Ishmael.

See link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I


315 posted on 04/17/2007 10:32:13 AM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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To: generally

One has to wonder why only excerpts of the note are being released or leaked?

I sure would like to see the note in it’s entirety.


316 posted on 04/17/2007 10:35:17 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: bnelson44

Another possible theory.


317 posted on 04/17/2007 10:36:37 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: dragnet2

It’s evidence. The leaks are probably from folks who don’t actually have the note but saw a bit of it or were told about it.


318 posted on 04/17/2007 10:36:45 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: reagan_fanatic

>We may not know anything close to the real truth for at least a couple more days, if not weeks.<

Now there is a real truth and a false truth? The Truth is the truth and there is no other Truth, in my Bible.

If not weeks, if not EVER. The colder the case gets, the further from the truth we may find ourselves. The MSM is now bent on humanizing the perpetrator. Will they end up by declaring his act was a cry for help?!!!!!

Perhaps our outrage has somewhat obscured our deep sympathy for the families of the victims. My condolences go out to them. (I have three grandchildren in college), and I pray God will give the families the strength to get through all of this, and I hope that someday they will accept His merciful peace.


319 posted on 04/17/2007 10:39:47 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Strategerist

The drive bys were reporting this and at some point I hear that this monster had entered the US through Shanghai.

You are right-—misinformation. Lots of it.


320 posted on 04/17/2007 10:39:49 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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