22 dead in Va. Tech shooting rampage

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/?GT1=9246 ^

[Shade2]

BREAKING NEWS MSNBC staff and news service reports Updated: less than 1 minute ago BLACKSBURG, Va. - At least 22 people were killed Monday in a shooting rampage on the Virginia Tech campus, police said. They said the gunman was among the dead.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

How would taking away my gun stop gun violence and get the U.S. more in line with the rest of the world? My gun is in my home and is used solely for self defensive purposes. To which I add, has never to date been used.

But God forbid, and I pray it never comes, that someone decides to kick in my door at three o'clock in the morning for whatever nefarious purposes, I pray that I still have my gun to defend myself. For you know as well as I that even if the police were just down the street from my home, there would be in fact precious little they could do to protect me and my family.

[Red Badger]

Two thirds of all 1992 US murders were accomplished with firearms. Handguns were used in about half of all murders. Sharp instruments were used in 17% of murders and blunt instruments in about 6%. Gun control laws are stiffer in Canada, and many claim this accounts for the murder rate being lower in Canada than in the United States. 65% of US homicides were committed with firearms, versus 32% in Canada. However, a large American study indicated that liberalized laws for carrying concealed weapons reduced murder rates in the US by 8.5%. US homicide rates in the year 1900 were an estimated 1 per 100,000 -- at a time when anyone of any age could buy a gun. Statistics-gathering may have been less thorough at that time -- and few people had the money or interest to buy guns. But American gun supply (including handguns) doubled from the 1973-1992 period, during which homicide rates remained unchanged (WALL STREET JOURNAL, 4-Aug-2000, p.A10). Politicians in Massachusetts have cited the State's tough gun control laws as the reason for its low murder rates. However, the adjacent states of Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have some of the least stringent gun control laws in the US, yet the first two have lower murder rates than Massachusetts and the murder rates in Vermont are comparable to those in Massachusetts. Murder rates in Boston increased 50% in 2004 over the previous year, while murder rates in Los Angeles, Miami, Washington and many other major cites saw murder rates decline.

[slapshot]

No news on shooter- If this was a white male, we would have his entire history.

COuld it be an information clampdown b/c he is a member of the ROP? Cant rile up the sheeple can we now??

[WannabeTurk]

Perhaps you’ve never heard of the concept, but people do work outside of their own countries. I’m currently back in the states, but am returning to Istanbul in the fall. That’s why I haven’t bothered changing the flag. The “WannabeTurk” name is my own private joke. I’m as American as apple pie, I assure you. Regards,

[I still care]

“Opportunism is not limited to Democrats. It is the food upon which the political animal feeds”

I’ll agree with that statement, but I was thinking specifically about the kneejerk reaction of a Democrat Congress to gun grab.

[Cyclopean Squid]

There is going to be a kneejerk reaction by Second Amendment advocates that if there were no gun free zone, then this wouldn’t have happened. The point is, both sides believe what they preach and aren’t above seizing an event like this in advancing their cause.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

They said the gunman was among the dead.

What a waste of skin. These people really should kill themselves BEFORE going on their rampages.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

And when the guy is convicted, that slimeball Kaine will spare him from the death penalty.

Eh, I'm sure the "general pop" will find interesting things to do with him.

[CJ-50]

What I am talking about is that so many of the posts are about how the story will be handled, who they expect to take advantage, etc.....and the dead and wounded have not been fully counted. The facts are in flux because the situation has yet to be resolved and the discussion becomes “How can I comment on this to prove that my point of view is correct?”

[bigjoesaddle]

The date of your article was Tuesday, January 31, 2006.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

One other point about these school and college shootings. When you take God out of the school system and teach these students that we evolved from animals (and there are no moral absolutes) -— we shouldn’t be surprised when they act like animals. I would be surprised if they didn’t.

Only if he was an idiot who believed that God and evolution are incompatible.

[P-40]

Yes, that was last year that all that went down.

[Library Lady]

This man was an overly aggressive reporter, not the shooter. At least that’s what the local news said.

[pandoraou812]

Hmmmm thats what was said on fox news. That the man cuffed on the ground was a reporter...not the killer or a student. I am not a very good reporter but they showed the same pic as was on here. ~P~

[I still care]

Yes, but who is going to get the MSM exposure?

[wildcatf4f3]

Knife killings are popular in the UK

[wildcatf4f3]

“Just because Canada,UK,Australia, etc don’t have a murder rate equal to zero does not mean there are not lessons to be learned here. The USA is not even in the same ballpark when homicide rates are compared with other first world nations.”

Great. we’ll send you our innercity population and you civilize them

[Copernicus]

May you stand before God and man as my two precious grandchildren's killer if you pass any more gun legislation that will make me a felon should I own a handgun or any other gun for that matter.

Sincerely,

Mary Carpenter

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/deaths_in_merced.htm

http://www.grnc.org/mary_carpenter_letter.htm

[WFTR]

I spent many hours in Norris Hall. What a shock.

Bill
VPI&SU
Class of '86

[Old Student]

“What this culture needs are a few 10’S OF MILLIONS more members of the “let’s roll” breed.
. . . a slight correction.”

Amen, FRiend.