Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)

http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

[LexHoskin]

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

“A SUPER MAJORITY OF COPS, and A LARGE MAJORITY OF military are NOT, REPEAT, NOT “highly trained” to use their weapons.”

Not true of United States Marines. Not only are they highly trained and proficient with their weapons — they *are* the weapons.

[Dukie07]

Umm, all the folks at home would have to do is watch CNN. Just sayin’....

[DCPatriot]

IMO, "you people" is not racist in any way, shape or form.

He's not assuming your group of like thinkers is of a different race.

He is assuming (correctly) you're just a goup of anti-illegals.

Therefore, "you people" is apropos.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Rights of Permanent Residents

As a permanent resident, you have the right to:

Live and work permanently anywhere in the U.S.
Apply to become a U.S. citizen once you are eligible.
Request a visa for your husband or wife and unmarried children to live in the U.S.
Get Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, and Medicare benefits, if you are eligible.
Own property in the U.S.
Apply for a driver’s license in your state or territory.
Leave and return to the U.S. under certain conditions.
Attend public school and college.
Join certain branches of the U.S. Armed Forces.
Purchase or own a firearm, as long as there are no state or local restrictions saying you can’t.

From U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

[DCBryan1]

Not true of United States Marines. Not only are they highly trained and proficient with their weapons — they *are* the weapons.

I overlooked that! I bow to your supreme intellect! You are correct. Semper Fi, and Happy advanced bday on 10 NOV 07!

[Texas_shutterbug]

How many CCW owners live in dorms, frat houses, or housing with other college bingers?

I'll bet not many!

[gotmatt]

that law should be changed if indeed that is the Virginia law. the 2nd amendment does not extend to non-citizens, let’s get real here. I don’t care how pro-RKBA you are, a foreign national here on a visa should not be able to purchase a gun.

oh i agree, i just see there being a line or two in any legislation that is close to this incident extending to reaches further than the intent. not to mention i'm sure a lot of pork will be backloaded etc. ad nauseum. if there is one thing you can bet on, it's that politicians will use a terrible situation to their advantage. and you can bet there will be "tough on crime" touting cons and "tough on guns" touting libs behind a bill that starts ebbing away rights. i just hope i'm wrong.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

OH - finally information about one of the victims - yes so tragic! May God be with that family, may He be with that soul who just entered eternity....pray comfort and strength for that family and this young person’s loved ones and friends.

[FreeAtlanta]

Why? If we erase history, we are doomed to repeat it. If this guy turns out completely clean, then we have this thread to help educate us not to jump to conclusions so quickly. JMHO

[dawn53]

Here’s the problem. You can’t get a green card in just a few months...it takes years. If this guy was only here since August, there’s no way he could have a green card by now...unless it was a false ID.

[Quix]

LONG LIVE

CURSILLO,

TRES DIAS

WALK TO EMMAEUS

CONGRATS on your participation.

FREEPMAIL me some time about a great footwashing closing I persuaded the Taipei folks to incorporate into it.

[DCBryan1]

How many CCW owners live in dorms, frat houses, or housing with other college bingers? I'll bet not many!

How many faculty, staff, adjunct professors, non-traditional (older, multi degree), off duty cop/military carry?

Answer: NOT ENOUGH!

[oceanview]

well, let me tell you - if it turns out this guy bought that gun legally - that law regarding foreign nationals is going to change in about 20 minutes. and the media is going to run hard with that part of the story.

[Quix]

PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR SAFETY; YOUR SON’S SAFETY AND ESPECIALLY GOD’S FAITHFULNESS.

Thanks for your many contributions to this important thread.

[relee]

Gee, I guess people on student visas can get handguns in VA. Is that true?

IIRC that is not correct.

[oceanview]

the point is - such a law actually hurts the 2A rights of americans. why do we have to extend that right to foreign nationals?

[JennysCool]

Err, put yourself in this guy’s place. There was no reason to post his personal stuff here and elsewhere but Internet gossip and innuendo.

[VA40]

I have has this on TV all day long. I swear when it was first breaking they were commending VT for using technology to inform students, showing the website notice, students talking about the emails they were getting; students were calling in on cell phones saying there were loud speakers telling them to stay inside, cops everywhere. They were painting VT to be on the cutting edge of communicating with students.
I think that as the count went up and people starting asking why, VT just took too long to come out with information and by then the media had whipped up a full frenzy. I don't think the President and the cop were prepared for that. Like you said they have also been through the worst day of their life. The cop said he had never seen anything so bad.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Non-US citizens living in the United States, (if they have valid permanent residence status) in fact have the same normal US Constitutional Rights to purchase, own and keep arms guaranteed under the Second Ammendment, again, provided they have a Green Card, and there are no local or state laws that would forbid them to do the two things above (purchase, own and keep).

That is the current situation and reality.

[Windcatcher]

"He alerted nobody, and in fact turned it over to American media who was already covering it."

(sigh). You're STILL missing my point -- it would be entirely gratuitous and unnecessary, if anything, dangerous. Like I said, wild speculation. A "trophy" recording, nothing more. If not for who he might be it wouldn't even be worth mentioning, except for the fact that a Chinese student in the US for an entire eight months *should* have no real reason to have such a beef with so many people without some prodding (and if he bought the guns 35 days ago then less than that). Maybe the shooter was a nut, but dammit, something pushed him over the edge. I say investigate all avenues -- no witch hunts, no masses of people with torches going after this guy, just check it out. Like I said, I don't believe in coincidences.