Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...
Should be interesting what they find in the now smoking in hell bastards room/house/car/computer/etc.
AP now confirms campus email warning was 2 hours late after the first shooting in the womens dormitory.
Lets see, First off you have to put a big fence around the campus like a prison. Then you are going to have to search everyone who enters and you are going to have to do periodic searches of the entire campus itself. Now are you going to include all the housing and what about the off campus housing?
Fine, bigger fence, more guards, less privacy, probably strip searches and cavity checks. Now is it anymore secure or is it a trap? Do you really think it is possible to completely secure an University Campus? I can get an armory on board an airplane right now. For the moment lets pretend you can secure the school.
So now let us get 19 suicide attackers, they attack one of the check points, kill the guards and start shooting anyone they see. The thirty thousand students have no where to run, no place to hide. I guess the question becomes how many bullets can the terrorists carry in a truck?
Would you go to this prison, err school?
That was damn tricky,
and now all the copycats
know how to do it . . .
What's different is only the fact that deamonization of gun ownership has advanced, because of the efforts of the bliss ninnies. The nature of the students has not changed.
"The campus has a right to disallow someone to bring in a gun, just as a house owner or restaurant owner has a right to disallow smoking in their property"
No. It's a dorm, so folks live there and it's a govm't dorm, so the Constitution applies. The right to self defense still exists on govm't property. "As for all this defensiveness about college KIDS (and I emphasize that term), forget it. We were all that age and most of us, including me, were IN college. Spare me the “discrimination” nonsense; we were ALL of that “group”. I have an inkling of what it was like, and that was a while ago. Worse now, and it’s clear if you even watch the news."
The dorm myself and others had guns in was known as the zoo and alcohol was consumed there on many occasions. Your deamonization of college students is as repulsive as the deamoniziton of blacks was when they were disarmed under the law. Bigotted catch all demeaning of blacks was used to disarm them with the first gun control laws, which were later extended to whites that weren't of the privileged political class.
Third world macho types, particularly when they have an elevated ego, are very likely to go nuts when their property dares to defy them. Christ, any culture capable of “honor killings” is capable of anything.
Still waiting to find out what this guy is. If he is muslim like the Trolly Square shooter, expect the whole story to end up buried. Sounds far fetched, but if the MSM has to admit that a Muslim did it, they know the people will choose the sensible option at last, and they don’t want that!!
Your spelling is way better then mine .. Thanks
I’m going back to my corner now :0(
I am still stunned by the wind today! Nothing is flying! No choppers are getting in or out on most of the East Coast. So, all those injured had to be treated locally and not at distant trauma centers equipped for such high velocity bullet wounds.
That spooks me! As you mentioned, people who are PO’d go “postal.” They don’t chain the doors and wear bullet proof vests.
IMHO
If they have any reason to believe that there may have been a conspiracy, or accomplices, then they would tread carefully.
Too much time has passed. Too many involved, too many saw the shooter, yet still no ID on the shooter, no leaks from witnesses, no ID reports from the media.
Based on this lack of ID, it would seem to point to an unknown shooter, or someone that was not connected to the campus. Then again, I know as much as anyone else here.
The American Revolution (Started with Paul Revere's Ride: April 18-19 April 1775)
The American Civil War (Started April, 1861, ended April, 1865, thus "Across Five Aprils")
The Bosnian War began in the first days of April, 1992
The Rwandan Genocide began in April, 1994
The Armenian Genocide began in April 24, 1914
Other events that have occurred in the month of April include:
President Abraham Lincoln's assassination (April 14, 1865)
The Frank Slide (April 29, 1903)
The 1906 San Francisco Earthquake (April 18, 1906)
The sinking of the RMS Titanic (April 14-15 April 1912)
The Armenian Genocide (April 24, 1915)
Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination (April 4, 1968)
Super Tornado Outbreak (April 3-4, 1974)
Chernobyl nuclear accident (April 26, 1986)
The 1992 Los Angeles Riots after the Rodney King verdict (April 29, 1992)
The bloody end to the Branch Davidian siege in Waco, Texas (April 19, 1993)
The Oklahoma City Bombing (April 19, 1995)
In Lebanon, at least 106 Lebanese civilians are killed when the Israel Defense Forces shell
the UN compound at Qana (see Qana Massacre). (April 18, 1996) The Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania, Australia (April 28, 1996)
The Columbine High School massacre in Littleton, Colorado (April 20, 1999)
The 2007 Virginia Tech shooting in Blacksburg, Virginia (April 16, 2007).
Don’t ever post such a horrendous comment to me again. I have already stated that I’m not going to discuss guns on campus anymore today.
Thanks. I remember that every time I moved for the Army (which was in the Spring), something bad happened.
I understand all that.
And I’ll say it again as I had some 3x already: we were all that age so please spare the “discrimination”-type arguments. I’ve lived that and I wasn’t proud of my generation as a whole, much less how it is now, which watching “March-Madness riots” on news only affirms. The stories are far too many.
Again, consider the right of the campus to determine what comes on its property. No 18yo is being denied a gun, they’re being denied carrying it on someone’s property. There is nothing wrong with that.
You can argue whether it’s smart for the campus to do so (I’m thinking it might be), but frankly, the campus pretty much has the right to say what goes on on its property.
Maybe. Time will tell.
Muhammad and Malvo were described as two white guys in a box truck until the very end.
The murder of the “girlfriend” could have been a decoy, disposing of a witness, or a lover’s quarrel gone wrong.
If it was known that girl X was killed by her boyfriend at 7 am - and it seems that is the consensus, it’s hard to see why a name should not be known already. It’s not hard on a college campus to find out that girl X is dating boy y, and surely the kids seem to be cooperating very nicely with the media. And still no name. Why? There’s no presumption of innocence here - the perp is dead.
Chains, kevlar vests, numerous rounds of ammo, etc? It just seems like a stretch to assume that the first murder caused the second attack. Something doesn’t make sense.
Is that a mug shot?
Thanks for the report.
Amazing that reporters are too dumb to ask the right questions.
If you were listening to MSNBC, ping to 1733. Did you hear the eye-witness account from some student named “Trey?”
Another funny thing ... WSLS was just talking aboout this and they say whether the shooter was male or female, faculty, student, or someone else is even known for sure.
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