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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: jdm

Thanks for the both stories.


1,661 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:05 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: gracesdad
My son-in-law is a Virginian and I spoke to him just now. He is a CCW guy and tells me that the gun rights folks in VA have had trouble with the Hokies because although it is legal to carry on campus, the university said that if any student is caught (legally) carrying, that student will be expelled.

Things might have been a whole lot better if someone was carrying today...

1,662 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:23 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Idaho Whacko

My, my, my. What a peevish and silly little post.


1,663 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:24 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: gracesdad
So the perp went back to his place after the intial shooting to reload?

Unlikely he would have such a weapons cache on him

Katie Couric just arrived on campus

1,664 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:32 PM PDT by meg88
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To: All

Aiyeee, Katie Couric is at Tech now.


1,665 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:51 PM PDT by gracesdad
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Gun bill gets shot down by panel (VA Tech - On Drudge)
1,666 posted on 04/16/2007 12:54:56 PM PDT by BJClinton (Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons.)
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To: Tarpon
If all the people on the 9/11 planes behaved like the ones on Flight 93 ...

Flight 93 can't really be compared to the other flights. It was the last to go down. Before it crashed, the passengers had had phone contact with many people, as I'm sure you know, and the passengers were made aware of what happened to the other flights.

I don't think there is any evidence which shows that non-Flight 93 passengers had any idea that what was going on was anything but a "normal" hijacking. They had no idea that they were about to be used as missiles.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming...

1,667 posted on 04/16/2007 12:55:32 PM PDT by grellis (Femininist)
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To: Mo1

Very well. Would seem to be a reasonable thing to do.

Appreciate the info.


1,668 posted on 04/16/2007 12:55:32 PM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: sola_fide

26,000 students at Tech.


1,669 posted on 04/16/2007 12:55:46 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: txroadkill
If you know anything about Texas Government

I live in Houston, and my wife and I both have CCW permits. However, you have to admit that fighting for the rights of Texans to carry guns is not an uphill battle.

1,670 posted on 04/16/2007 12:55:48 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: gracesdad

Katie Couric’s arrival makes this an official crisis. /sarcasm


1,671 posted on 04/16/2007 12:56:27 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Pharmboy

Forty years ago, citizens grabbed rifles from thier vehicles, and helped the police shoot back at the killer, saving MANY lives...

But that was at ANOTHER University, 40 years ago, in Texas, before the era of Liberalism, “Gun-Free” Slaughter Zones, and political correctness....


1,672 posted on 04/16/2007 12:56:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Palladin; All

Something else weird: Barak Obama makes a statement and starts right off saying “There will be many more of these”

Sounded almost like a threat.

GWU students put on some kind of alert.

(me, still reading the FOX scroll)


1,673 posted on 04/16/2007 12:56:35 PM PDT by Palladin (Jordin will be the AI this year.)
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To: mystery-ak
Get every available LEO on the opposite side of the campus....

Thanks for the very smart observation. Misdirect the LEOs and leisurely kill people.

1,674 posted on 04/16/2007 12:57:01 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: spunkets

“Looks like he may not have been a student also and traveled around looking for his ex g/f.”

I don’t think so.

He had an awful lot of ammo for disgruntled boyfriend. It is obvious that this guy intended to kill a lot of people.

Also, heard this from one of the students who claimed to know an eyewitness...said the gunman was locking, (chaining?) entrance/exits to the school. Student claimed that the gunman was going from classroom to classroom firing into each.

Waiting to hear more on this note.


1,675 posted on 04/16/2007 12:57:51 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Pharmboy

I’m not aware that any of Virginia’s public colleges allow firearms. I could be wrong.


1,676 posted on 04/16/2007 12:57:53 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Perdogg

I’m not finding a link about that yet

FNC just mentioned it on the air ... It could be nothing and just FNC trying to make it bigger then it is


1,677 posted on 04/16/2007 12:57:57 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: gracesdad

all gun control, all of the time on see-bs news tonight


1,678 posted on 04/16/2007 12:57:57 PM PDT by meg88
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To: dragnet2

I’m with you. This sure doesn’t look like a lover’s spat gone wrong. Too many facts don’t fit.

Hasn’t the “chain the door tactic” been used by A.Q. before? Russian theatre standoff, perhaps?


1,679 posted on 04/16/2007 12:58:29 PM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: GenuineChocolateFace
9mm is good for killing europeans. For dangerous people, use a 45 ;)

Nah. During the 4-month Russian invasion of Finland, 1939-40, the Finns found out that the 9mm fmj rounds from their kp31 *Suomi* machinepistols were just fine for killing unwanted Communist invaders. You just had to use enough of them to get the job done.

The Finnish proverb "Siberia shall teach" was true also in the form: "Siberians shall teach". Many "Russian" invaders in the Winter War of 1939 - 1940 were actually conscripts from Ukraine and other south-western republics of Soviet Union. Many Russian soldiers of the north-western front in the 1941 - 44 war against Finland were tough and persistent natives of the Siberian wilds and forests. Some Finns knew them from the earlier war.

"They were formidable opponents. We were urged to kill almost every Siberian twice, and most tough boys still a third time", told many Finnish veterans of wars: "Russian lads, coming against us in closed formation, intoxicated with vodka and singing Le Internationale, were bunny-boys but the Siberians were born soldiers! We met them in February 1940 and we learnt to respect those slant-eyed imps... !" Two bullets were enough for "bunny-boys" but five hits were necessary to dispatch a Siberian "imp". Sometimes they fought back despite ten or twelve wounds from 9 mm bullets.

Now pull your trigger on the link here, and learn how the busy Finns were doing the good work of killing off unwanted Communists before you were born.


1,680 posted on 04/16/2007 12:58:30 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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