Posted on 03/31/2007 1:09:59 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
DARWIN THEORY IS PROVED TRUE!
That headline is from the New York Times. Have you seen similar headlines? I have. Many. "New Fossil Find Bolsters Evolution"... "DNA Proves Camels took to the Seas"... "Darwin Vindicated: Top Scientist evolves Yeast into Yeast", and so on.
I have seen many such headlines in the media, in the last few years alone. But this is, to the best of my knowledge, the original "Darwin Proved True" headline. One can say, in a sense, that all subsequent "Darwin Proved True" articles evolved from this one, the common ancestor of them all, dated (by carbon dating) to Sept 22, 1912.
This is an important fossil find. You will note the similarities to modern-day "Darwin Proved True!" reports, clearly indicating common descent with little modification. The ingredients of a fine modern "Darwin Proved True" tale are all here, of course - the waffling, the exaggeration, the impressive buzz-words, the fantastical embellishments, the self-contradictions, the fairytales. Such as...
A race of ape-like and speechless man, inhabiting England hundreds of thousands of years ago, when they had for their neighbors the mastodon and other animals now extinct is the missing link in the chain in man's evolution, which leading scientists say they have discovered in what is generally described as "the Sussex skull." To this Dr. Woodward proposes to give the name of "eoanthropus," or "man of dawn."
Yes sir, upon this fairytale, the New York Times put the headline "DARWIN THEORY PROVED TRUE", even though the article ends with the lines
There is, he thinks, a point of doubt as to the jawbone. It was not found in the same place as the skull, and he holds it possible that it does not belong to the skull. It is unquestionable apelike and it is not impossible that further examination may show that it does not fit the skull at all.
In other words, it is all nonsense, but nevertheless, DARWIN PROVED TRUE!! And thus began the classic genre of reporting on evolutionary matters, a trend which continues to this day.
This is an important archeological find, of special interest to participants and spectators of the ever-entertaining Darwin wars. But in case you are not familiar with this news article (you should be), I'll tell you what the punchline is. Scroll down to the end of the article...
And this great discovery, upon which it was announced that "DARWIN THEORY PROVED TRUE"! is also affectionally known as...
PILTDOWN MAN !
Before you reply to this, ponder carefully this quote from Scott "Dilbert" Adams:
I should add that the first person to explain that science continuously revises itself -- and that’s what makes it so great! -- has no free will.
As I tried to explain earlier and you explain here so well, that particular theory became a "fact" in itself and we use it to build other theories. This is not uncommon in science. We use "theoretic facts" if you will, as measurements for many other purposes in science and in everyday life in general.
Some things in science are very close to indisputable..like when measuring with a ruler you can mark off an inch. But many other of our measurements may change over time or with the environment.
Evolutionists even believe it was a hoax. It (specifically the jawbone) was a fabrication.
Thanks!!!
A fragment of a human skull and an orangutan jawbone were both died the same color to make it look like they had come from the same organism.
The teeth were filed down. The articulations were purposely broken so the jaw couldn't be tested to see if it came from the same individual.
It was kept in a British museum for 40 years (1912 - 1952) and given the name "ape-man". It was known to be a fraud when put in the museum, but was given the scientific name "Eoanthropus dawsoni" for the purpose of deception.
Ignore the creation "science" talking points.
Here is a more accurate account: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/piltdown.html.
Many successful scientists will disprove what other good men before them have staked their lives on. And some well thought of scientists and yes ministers of the faith are just plain old crooks out to deceive the sheeple for their own self serving gain.
The bottom line is you really don't have to put your trust in anyone to find out what the "truth" means to you. Just continue to listen to everyone, not just those that agree with you and daily draw you own conclusions.
A very wise professor once told me to always question reality and never take anything anyone says as gospel and you will walk in the shoes of genius. I've never forgotten it. It's a pain to have to continually reevaluate everything but it has served me well over the years.
This is why we should not put so much stock in the "scientific proof" of man's
relation to global warming. As you were saying ~ expert's predictions ...
"Man will never reach the moon regardless of all future scientific advances. --
Dr. Lee DeForest, "Father of Radio &`Grandfather of Television."
"The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives." -- Admiral
William Leahy, US Atomic Bomb Project
"There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom." -- Robert
Millikan, Nobel Prize in Physics, 1923
"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics,
forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers ." -- Thomas Watson,
chairman of IBM, 1943
"I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with The best
people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out
the year." -- The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957
"But what .. is it good for?" commenting on the microchip. -- Engineer at the
Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,
"640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981
"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a
means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us," --Western
Union internal memo, 1876.
"The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a
message sent to nobody in particular?" in response to urgings for investment in
the radio in the 1920s. -- David Sarnoff' Associates.
"The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a
'C', the idea must be feasible," -- A Yale University management professor in
response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service.
(Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.)
"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falls on his face, not Gary Cooper,"
-- Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in Gone With The
Wind.
"A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America
likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make," -- Response to
Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies.
"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out," -- Decca
Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.
"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible," -- Lord Kelvin, president
Royal Society, 1895.
"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature
was full of examples that said you can't do this," -- Spencer Silver on the
work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M "Post-It" Notepads.
"Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're
crazy," -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill
for oil, 1859.
"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." -- Irving
Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.
"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value," -- Marechal
Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre, France.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented," -- Charles H. Duell,
Commissioner, US Office of Patents, 1899.
"The super computer is technologically impossible. It would take all of the
water that flows over Niagara Falls to cool the heat generated by the number of
vacuum tubes required." -- Professor of Electrical Engineering, New York
University.
"I don't know what use any one could find for a machine that would make copies
of documents. It certainly couldn't be a feasible business by itself. -- the
head of IBM, refusing to back the idea, forcing the inventor to found Xerox.
"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." -- Pierre Pachet,
Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872.
"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion
of the wise and humane surgeon," -- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon,
appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873.
And last but not least...
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson,
president, chairman, founder of Digital Equipment Corp 1977.
If a scientist disproves another scientist, its a good thing, and accepted in a professional way and it improves our view of the universe.
But, if someone questions dogmatic beliefs which have no basis in reality, you get excommunicated, or stoned, or have a fatwa against you, etc.
I'll take the scientific approach.
One of those things DW377 definitely did see. But it became clear only after reading several of your followup posts.
You can go to my Church to ask questions and they will first make you sit in a room full of fat middle aged ladies with casseroles everywhere before you are taken to "the questing room".
You will be inundated with bible verses until you feel like your brain is going to burst.
If you try to resist and run into the other room the ladies they shall taunt you a second time with cobblers.
Be afraid..be very afraid.
This is incredible! This thread has discovered the perpetual motion machine. If a scientific discipline is riddled with fraud, then they convince the public of the value of the fraudulent research and get huge funding dollars. Then, when it's discovered to be a fraud, they get even more kudos for the value of the scientific method. More bling.
That's the way it works with embryonic stem cell research. California started funding snake oil research as a direct result of the Korean fraud.
Did the money get cut off? Nope. In fact, other states started following suit. What a scam!
I thought the perpetual motion machine was scientifically impossible, but you know how science is. One day, you use the language of metaphysical certainty. The next, it goes into the rubbish bin and the new theory is gospel.
Not these days. There are way too many scientific disciplines that cannot be bothered by big and scary concepts like mathematics.
Now it's strings.
Not anymore. They've pretty much finished pouring money into that rathole. What a waste.
Or get denounced on the weather channel.
By a scientist.
The ball and the earth move toward each other, according to the currently-accepted model of about the last 350 years.
I suppose you could approximate it your way, if you find exponents confusing.
Just wondering...how do you know how it works? Did you see the center of the earth? Did you drill to the earths core and bring up the magnetic force yourself? Are you sure there really is an earth's core? Did you see it with your own eyes or are you taking someone's word for it as an act of faith?
Just asking.
Galileo would be ashamed.
DouglasKC: Evolutionists even believe it was a hoax. It (specifically the jawbone) was a fabrication.
I know that, but it's not what I asked. Why do you think it's a hoax?
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