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Renowned Cosmologist Draws Sold-Out Crowd (Stephen Hawking)
The Daily Californian ^ | March 14, 2007 | Andrea Lu

Posted on 03/14/2007 9:15:46 PM PDT by dayglored

Last night, nearly 3,000 people received a mini lesson on the origin of the universe from perhaps the world’s most famous cosmologist, Stephen Hawking.

Hawking spoke to a packed audience in Zellerbach Hall about how Albert Einstein’s general theory of relativity and quantum theory explained the creation of the universe.

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His lecture, which touched upon subjects such as black holes and spacetime, was peppered with quips that drew laughs from the audience.

“If one believed that the universe had a beginning, the obvious question was, what happened before the beginning,” Hawking said. “What was God doing before He made the world?"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bigbang; god; hawking; posterchild; universe
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To: dayglored
Renowned Cosmologist Draws Sold-Out Crowd
 
Sold OUT???
 
 
How much was CHARGED???
 
 
I hope not $55!!!!



Stephen W. Hawking

Tue, Mar 13, 7:30pm Sold Out *

* Sold Out — please contact our Ticket Office at 510.642.9988 for availability.

Or be added to our Notification List.

Just announced! Live Video Simulcast added in Wheeler Auditorium. Details.

Venue: Zellerbach Hall A

Price: $15/$20/$25

 

Born exactly 300 years after the death of Galileo, Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at

Cambridge University Stephen W. Hawking is widely considered to be the greatest scientific

thinker since Newton and Einstein. In a talk aimed at the general public, Professor Hawking

discusses theories on the Origin of the Universe. He explains how time can have a beginning

and the progress made by cosmologists in an area that has traditionally belonged to theologists

and philosophers.

41 posted on 03/15/2007 12:57:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Coyoteman

Geologists gave up on that idea about 30 years before Darwin's monumental publication.

 
This guy did too......

Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

"By further reflecting that the clearest evidence would be requisite to make any sane man believe in the miracles by which Christianity is supported,—and that the more we know of the fixed laws of nature the more incredible do miracles become,—that the men at that time were ignorant and credulous to a degree almost incomprehensible by us,—that the Gospels cannot be proven to have been written simultaneously with the events,—that they differ in many important details, far too important, as it seemed to me to be admitted as the usual inaccuracies of eye witnesses;—by such reflections as these, which I give not as having the least novelty or value, but as they influenced me, I gradually came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation. The fact that many fake religions have spread over large portions of the earth like wildfire had some weight with me. But I was very unwilling to give up my belief; I feel sure of this, for I can remember often and often inventing day-dreams of old letters between distinguished Romans, and manuscripts being discovered at Pompeii or elsewhere, which confirmed in the most striking manner all that was written in the Gospels. But I found it more and more difficult, with free scope given to my imagination, to invent evidence which would suffice to convince me. Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion was correct."

( Charles Darwin in his Autobiography of Charles Darwin, Dover Publications, 1992, p. 62. )


Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

"I think that generally (& more & more as I grow older), but not always, that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."

( Quoted from Adrian Desmond and James Moore, Darwin: The Life of a Tormented Evolutionist, New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1991, p. 636. )


 
 
 
 
 

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42 posted on 03/15/2007 12:59:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

OOoops!

The $55 comment belongs in ANOTHER thread!


43 posted on 03/15/2007 1:03:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: dayglored; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; AnalogReigns; banalblues; ...
"IMO, a clear demonstration that advancing scientific understanding of the universe, and belief in the existence of God as the Creator of the Universe, are not only compatible, BUT VERY LIKELY THE SAME THING."

Yes, in fact if you make two changes to Hawking's cosmos it matches Genesis quite well:

1. Make it a bounded universe (and thus by equal distribution of gravitation, spherical).

2. Place earth at the center, as God most certainly would have.

These two changes to a universe that expanded from a singularity give us D. Russell Humphreys' well thought out model, which allows distant bodies to be truly distant while still having a six day creation as measured at the center, through the gravitational dilation of time of Einstein's General Relativity.

When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word.

44 posted on 03/15/2007 3:46:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: ASA Vet
"Makes as much sense as any of the other creation stories man has created."

That's because man created it. - We prefer the one that God gave us, because its true, unlike the aforementioned bovine excrement.

45 posted on 03/15/2007 3:52:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: JRios1968; EveningStar; BJClinton; pax_et_bonum; teenyelliott; Finger Monkey; feinswinesuksass; ...

Why would he speak at a conference about hair?

huhh?


46 posted on 03/15/2007 3:52:56 PM PDT by agent_delta
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To: agent_delta; All

47 posted on 03/15/2007 3:54:42 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: FastCoyote

>>I'm trained as a mechanical engineer, into thermodynamics. If you know your thermo, you have to understand that the laws do not in anyway preclude the existence of God, as many claim.<<

Hmm
I almost never hear scientists claim that. I hear a lot of them saying they don't believe in God but not that he could not exist.


48 posted on 03/15/2007 3:59:27 PM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: dayglored
"I don't think he was being either farcical or insulting. I think he was using an unanswerable conundrum as a way of challenging his listeners to expand their thinking."

One thing that has to be recognized about Hawking, is that all he can do for himself is think. He's not hung up on his sex life, his tennis serve, high-powered sports cars, or the latest gourmet kitchen design. We should pray for him, and not attach evil connotations to things he says.

49 posted on 03/15/2007 4:01:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word.

Bump that!

50 posted on 03/15/2007 4:22:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick (John Edwards is a gamma male. "Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair!")
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To: dayglored
“What was God doing before He made the world?"

He was writting the software code used in the universe's construction. As a side note, the present situation of the big bang's math only works if you allow E=mc2 to be ignored during the initial stage. I do not agree with this interpretation, however, I'm pleased that it is noted as such.

51 posted on 03/15/2007 4:25:00 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: dayglored
Hawkings entire quote:

“If one believed that the universe had a beginning, the obvious question was, what happened before the beginning,” Hawking said. “What was God doing before He made the world? Was He preparing hell for people who asked such questions?”

I believe this is rather a sarcastic, arrogant response. If you read on it's obvious that Hawking has no use for God.

52 posted on 03/15/2007 5:33:12 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Gene Eric
The remark is a conundrum and, if not deliberately farcical, insulting.

But... he cannot help it.... his thoughts come back to God.

53 posted on 03/15/2007 5:59:17 PM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks for the ping!


54 posted on 03/15/2007 10:07:17 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: dayglored

And God said let there be light and there was light.
No Big Bang, space has no atmosphere to carry sound.


55 posted on 03/15/2007 10:26:47 PM PDT by Peacekeeper357 (Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.)
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To: editor-surveyor
When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word.

I hear you. And why does any evolutionist want to re-interpret a mans words like Hawking's when they do not adhere 150% towards their view of reality? We have seen it on this thread.

That is a rhetorical question by the way.
56 posted on 03/15/2007 11:27:09 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Coyoteman
Deliberate ignorance or stupidity?
57 posted on 03/16/2007 12:44:14 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/05/1979.)
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To: gondramB

"I almost never hear scientists claim that. I hear a lot of them saying they don't believe in God but not that he could not exist."

So, what you are claiming is that all scientists are at least agnostics and none are atheists. That is clearly not the case, in fact it is an impossibility. You cannot have agnostic atheists, they are either one or the other, so your statement makes no sense.

Your existence as a human proves sentient beings exist. Since some humans are smarter than others, one must conclude that it is possible that sentient human beings can exist that are greater than the greatest sentient human.

I look at the universe and I see an entity that can remember it's past (we can see back to the big bang), has the ability to predict it's future (based on conservative laws), has a nervous system of photon rays, has a sense of self (is not self annihilating). That to me is either God, or more likely some dimensional slice of God.

In short, to be an atheist is to be not so bright a bulb as one imagines.


58 posted on 03/16/2007 1:31:49 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: editor-surveyor
When you get your science right, it never disagrees with God's word.

For that matter, when you get God's word right, it never disagrees with science.

59 posted on 03/16/2007 7:11:45 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: editor-surveyor
One thing that has to be recognized about Hawking, is that all he can do for himself is think. He's not hung up on his sex life,

Actually, his first marriage broke up, in part because he was having an affair with his nurse. There are rumors that that is the cause of the second divorce, which he is in the process of going through at present.

60 posted on 03/16/2007 7:17:07 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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