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The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base
vanity | 12 March 2007 | Trueblackman

Posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:01 PM PDT by Trueblackman

The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base

The Republican Party better get its act together like yesterday and realize that without its Conservative base, that it will be left to wonder in the wilderness for many more years to come.

Republicans in Congress are now back in the minority after 12 years of majorities granted to them by the base who envisioned the death of big government agencies like the Departments of Education and Energy with control of the purse strings from 1994-2006 and in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush the base demanded the unabated end of the Clinton Era Tactics of manipulation federal government numbers and phony government surpluses.

Conservatives felt that Bush and company would govern like Conservatives, but after 6 years the base saw no victories as the federal government grew bigger under Bush with “No Child Left Behind” and “Medicare Part D.” Bush refused to fight for our most Conservatives Nominees allowing them to be blocked for years on end by a minority within the minority Democrats Caucus in the Senate. Bush’s “new tone” in Washington DC amounted to the abandonment of his Conservative Principals within 6 months of his first term.

Liberal Republicans like John McCain were allowed to cut deals behind close doors on Judicial Nominees, Taxes and Immigration, while the Conservatives in the Senate seem dumbfounded and refused to stop this self-proclaimed maverick and his band of merry sellouts. McCain seems to take joy in stabbing the base in the back every chance he gets, gleefully going on MSNBC to be praised by Chris Matthews, because he feels that he is somehow owed the Presidency and blames the base for his 2000 Primary defeats to George W. Bush. Now McCain wants to be the 2008 Nominee, “Sorry John, but paybacks are a bi*ch” and I will not vote for what amounts to the Republican Party’s Manchurian Candidate.

The House Managers became fat, dumb and happy and governed more like Republicrats than Conservatives and they thought that the fears of impeachment, higher taxes and liberal control of the House would be enough to rally the base to their banner again in 2006, but this time their rally cries fell on deaf ears and their majorities were lost.

The Republican Party still refuses to learn from 2006’s mid-term election defection by the base, Republicans need to realize that they live and die by the votes of the base and that any candidate that does not appeal to the base will not receive our votes. It is better to lose to a Democrat, than to elect a CINO (Conservative In Name Only).

Now as we enter the 2008 Presidential Race we have Northern Eastern Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney trying to sell themselves to the base as having Conservative Credentials, but when one looks at their records and how they have governed, it has been anything but Conservative, yet there are those in the Republican Party who are trying to sell Giuliani as our best bet in 2008. The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principal than back a Liberal Republican IN Name Only like Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and John McCain, who will end up stabbing me in the back anyway and govern himself by poll and focus groups.

The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.


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To: FairOpinion
Carter and Clinton did IRREPARABLE harm to the country.

So will Rudy, atleast with Carter we got Reagan.
81 posted on 03/12/2007 9:13:19 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Paperdoll

I know the feeling!


82 posted on 03/12/2007 9:14:02 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: OMalley

How ya feeling? Ready to argue?


83 posted on 03/12/2007 9:15:01 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: TheLion; supercat
"Congress should in no way interfere with the courts"

Then why does the constitution give congress full authority over the courts?

84 posted on 03/12/2007 9:16:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: devolve

Whoops, all of the gang wasn't there! Too busy eating cheese!


85 posted on 03/12/2007 9:17:25 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: cripplecreek
They're giving me all of what I don't want and none of what I do want Except for some judges, I feel just like that.
86 posted on 03/12/2007 9:17:53 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudy in drag makes Edwards look like Charles Atlas.)
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To: msnimje
"What did Governor Romney do while governor of Massachusetts that was liberal?"

Notice how his detractors have pulled out all the stops to make us think Romney is a liberal. I've been doing a lot of reading on Romney and haven't seen anything that makes him a liberal. He governed Mass as conservatively as possible. And he got a lot done to boot!

87 posted on 03/12/2007 9:17:58 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Trueblackman; areafiftyone; PhiKapMom; Peach; BunnySlippers; onyx; Victoria Delsoul
Thoughtful essay. S/b "wandered", not "wondered"; "principle", not "principal".

Yes, philosophically, Bush has been aggravating from day one--particularly his new tone which the traitor party has used to further its treason, which the treason media has used to further its propaganda in support of treason, which the terrorist enemy has used to rally converts to defeat the decadent west.

Goldwater was my candidate in 1964 on a platform of victory over communism and fiscal conservatism. The electorate chose LBJ who would demand defeat with his sterilized target lists and waste six trillion on his war on poverty.

Reagan was the golden age, restoring optimism and prosperity, toppling the evil empire all but the last humpty dumpty.

His successor didn't understand fiscal conservatism and the effect of stopping on the road to Baghdad and lost because of it.

Rudy puts national security as job one, and fiscal conservatism as his number two priority, while promising judges in the way of Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas.

I'm an NRA member, against abortion, and against special rights for homosexuals, but I see primacy in the two-parter Congressman Billybob described: 1) win the primary; 2) win the general--probably against the Clinton machine.

I had enough of the traitor twosome in 1993-2001. The damage to national security will be finalized with a Hillary (Mrs. Bill Clinton) victory.

They cut defense forty percent and gave the Chinese missile, warhead, satellite and other vital military technology.

Duncan Hunter would be a fine Defense Secretary. Fred Thompson would be an Attorney General for the history books.

But to govern, one must first win.

The Saul Alinsky machine might savage those with lesser juice for bloodsport than the attorney from the southern district of New York who pursued the Marc Rich the Clintons pardoned.

Let Newt be Secretary of Education--after a brief battle in the Senate, rather than a long march to the general resembling Monty Python's Black Knight.

We'll have a country--for we won't surrender as Mrs. Bill Clinton, Hussein Obama, and the Breck Girl have guaranteed.

And although it won't be a defeat with principle, it won't be a defeat, and the next domestic terror attack won't be sudden and radioactive.

88 posted on 03/12/2007 9:18:38 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: editor-surveyor

Could you post a passage of the constitution that says congress can intervene in on going court cases....then you will have impressed me and I will be quiet.


89 posted on 03/12/2007 9:19:46 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Delphinium

better, still tender! are we arguing? LOL GRRRR!!!;)


90 posted on 03/12/2007 9:21:08 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: bluecollarman

"Boy that stuff is really getting old. If conservatives want to stand on principle what's it to you. Not everyone feels comfy making a deal with the devil."

You got that right!! I'm not willing to sell my soul for a Giulianni presidency! The lesser of two evils is still evil!


91 posted on 03/12/2007 9:21:11 PM PDT by upsdriver ((Hunter / Thompson......Gonzo politics)
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To: bluecollarman

At this point I'm not sure I would trust our new judges with eminent domain. We'll see I guess.


92 posted on 03/12/2007 9:21:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Trueblackman

great Post Trueblackman.Saw you on TV,(((Hugs))).


93 posted on 03/12/2007 9:21:56 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: Trueblackman

Supposedly, they got the message when they got their butts handed to them last November. If not, they'll get a louder message in November of '08.


94 posted on 03/12/2007 9:22:40 PM PDT by no dems (Herman Cain for VEEP in '08)
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To: Trueblackman
Conservatives felt that Bush and company would govern like Conservatives, but after 6 years the base saw no victories as the federal government grew bigger under Bush with “No Child Left Behind” and “Medicare Part D.”

So these so-called disgruntled conservatives who didn't like the "No Child Left Behind" and the "Medicare Part D" then decide to back Hunter.

What a disconnect.

95 posted on 03/12/2007 9:23:46 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: PhilDragoo
But to govern, one must first win.

Just why exactly do you think that Rudy is the most electable? I mean, Reagan ran as a conservative and won. GHWB in 88 ran as Reagan's heir and won. He ran as himself in 92 and lost. Dole was all over the place on a race to the middle and lost. W, although not quite Reagan, was very explicit that he was pro-life, pro-gun, etc. He won, twice. In 1994 we retook the congress as conservatives. In 2006 we lost it as big government types.

From that record, how do we conclude that Rudy is the most electable? It's so obviously wrong to me that I assume that those who push Rudy are in fact RINO's themselves.

96 posted on 03/12/2007 9:24:13 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: randog; mplsconservative
I seriously hope Fred Thompson throws his hat in the ring.

Same here.


Ditto that.
97 posted on 03/12/2007 9:24:59 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: FairOpinion
Rudy said and Ted Olson confirmed that Rudy will appoint constructionist judges like Scalia and Alito. That's why Ted Olson is supporting Rudy.

Well that clinches it. It's not like a politician with a history of doing one thing has ever gone back on his promise to do another thing.

98 posted on 03/12/2007 9:25:32 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: FairOpinion

"Carter and Clinton did IRREPARABLE harm to the country"

And now it's Rudy's turn!!!


99 posted on 03/12/2007 9:26:13 PM PDT by upsdriver ((Hunter / Thompson......Gonzo politics)
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To: Rodney King
Who's electable?

Stand and deliver.

100 posted on 03/12/2007 9:28:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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