Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 18 February 2007

Various big media television networks ^ | 17 February 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, February 17th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): White House press secretary Tony Snow.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann Romney; actor Michael Douglas.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : White House press secretary Tony Snow; Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson; magician Penn Jillette; former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele; and Marc Morial, president of the National Urban League.

[BusterBear]

Did they ever get David Corn and Mitchell on the stand?

I don't think so. The defense wanted to get Mitchell, but the judge wouldn't allow it - said her testimony would just be "hearsay" and in light of the fact that she later repudiated what she had said it wouldn't be of benefit to the defense. I didn't read about any attempts to get David Corn on the stand.

[rodguy911]

I don't know anyone who has figured him(Lieberman) out yet

[syriacus]

Democrats act as though Civil Wars are rare...

Question: Which of the following countries has had a civil war?

France, Russia, China, Nigeria, Lebanon, the US, Spain, England, Côte d'Ivoire, Vietnam, Korea ?

Civil wars crop up at critical points in almost every country's history.

List of past civil wars from Wikipedia [I have only included those since 1562]

*French Wars of Religion, 1562-1598
* Rokosz of Zebrzydowski. 1606-1609 in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
* Wars of the Three Kingdoms (England, Ireland, Scotland) 1639-1651 involved a number of civil wars:
* Irish Confederate Wars some parts of which were a civil war.
* Scottish Civil War; 1644-1652
* English Civil War, 1642-1651

* First English Civil War 1642–1646
* Second English Civil War 1648–1649
* Third English Civil War 1650–1651

* War of Reform (Mexico) 1857-1861
* Zulu Civil War, 1817-1819
* Taiping Civil War (China), 1851-1864
* American Civil War, 1861-1865
* Klang War; also known as Selangor Civil War, 1867 - 1874
* Boshin War (Japan), 1868-1869
* Satsuma Rebellion (Japan), 1877
* Jementah Civil War, 1879
* Russian Civil War, 1917-1921
* Finnish Civil War, 1918
* Irish Civil War, 1922-1923
* Chinese Civil War, 1928-1937, 1945-1949
* Vietnamese Civil War, 1930-1975
* Austrian Civil War, February 12 to February 16, 1934
* Spanish Civil War, 1936-1939
* Greek Civil War, 1946-1949
* Paraguayan Civil War, 1947
* Costa Rica Civil War, 1948
* Korean Civil War, 1950-1953
* Indonesian Civil War, 1965-1966
* Nigerian Civil War, 1967-1970
* Pakistan Civil War, 1971
* Lebanese Civil War, 1975-1990
* Mozambican Civil War, see Rome General Peace Accords, 1975-1992
* Sandinista Civil War, 1979-1989
* Salvadoran Civil War (El Salvador), 1979-1991
* Yugoslav wars, 1991-2001
* Afghan Civil War, 1992-2001
* First and Second Congo Wars (1996-1997, 1998-2002)

Wikpedia's list of contemporary civil Wars (I 'm not sure that all this information is correct).

* Afghan Civil War, 1992-2001, armed conflicts subsist
* Algerian Civil War, 1991-2002, conflicts subsist
* Angolan Civil War, 1974-1989, 1995-1997, 1998-2002
* Burundi Civil War, 1988-1991, 1993-2005
* Cabindan Civil War, Angola, 1975-2006
* Cambodia, 1978-1993, 1997-1998
* Casamance Conflict, Senegal, 1990-present
* Colombian armed conflict, 1964-present
* Congo Civil War, 1996-1997, 1998-2003
* Côte d'Ivoire Civil War, 1999-2000, 2002-present
* Darfur Conflict, Sudan, 2003-present
* East Timor/Indonesia, 1975-1999
* Georgian Civil War, Abkhazia, South Ossetia in Georgia, 1988-present
* Guatemalan Civil War, 1960-1996
* Guinea-Bissau Civil War, 1998-1999
* Haiti Rebellion, 2004
* Iraq Civil War, 2003(?)-present
* Kashmir Conflict, 1989-present
* Kurdistan, Kurdish Democratic Party, Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, 1961-1970, 1988-2003
* Liberian Civil War, 1989-1996, 1999-2003
* Nepalese Civil War, 1996-2006
* Northern Irish civil war, 1969-present
* Rwandan Civil War, 1990-1994
* Sierra Leone Civil War, 1991-2002
* Somali Civil War, 1991-present
* Sri Lankan Civil War, 1983-present
* Sudanese Civil War, 1955-1972, 1983-2005
* Tajikistan Civil War, 1992-1997
* Ugandan Civil War, 1987-present
* Yemen Civil War, 1979-1989, 1994, 2000s
* Yugoslav Wars, 1991-2001

[Miss Marple]

Well, here is my only comment for today.

You don't know SQUAT about the media or how to get the media to cover the President. I have seen Tony Snow try everything under the sun. They have tried "important speeches." They have tried press conferences. They have tried giving interviews to local people. The President has given interviews to running magazines, women's magazines, and talk radio. He has given more press conferences in 6 months than President Clinton did in his WHOLE EIGHT YEARS.

I am sick of you blaming Bush. If you are such a hot-shot wheel in Republican circles, call Tony Snow with your ideas instead of getting on this thread and trashing the President.

I am SO sorry I wasn't here to answer you in real time. Pfui.

[FOXFANVOX]

I am watching CNN. Marc Morial, former Mayor of New Orleans, wants a national summit on Katrina, headed by GWB. BTW, the former NO Mayor is speaking from Nevada!

Hurricanes in Fla and snowstorms in the Mid-west are dealt with by the locals with some Fed assistance. But, the good folks of New Orleans who built below sea level are demanding we pay for their poor choice of location and for the corruption in their gov't that allowed the levees to be built to sub-par tolerances.

We need to re-instill personal responsibility and put charity back into the private sector. [So mobile homes for New Orleans don't end up mired in OK or some other state.]

IMHO

[snugs]

He gave the answer that I would expect the President of the United States to give.

He however made it clear in the rest of the Press Conference where he stood and what he expected Congress to do in respect of funding and support of the troops and why.

I do not want this to end up as an agrument so I have said all I am going on the subject.

[saveliberty]

Too true, AliVeritas.

And yet liberals in the press are the first to "see" fascism in those who disagree with them.

Me thinks they do project too much.

[kabar]

When Bush was going across the country, how many times did you get the essence of his speeches in the MSM? None. Yet the numbers rose, because some saw him and heard, it wasn't filtered. Would you suggest the pres (instead of focusing on war), go across the country? Or are you suggesting the WH website lay it out?

I don't have any magic strategy, but I would use my access to the MSM to get my message out including using certain ground rules about editing. The WH website is a good place for references for surrogates to get the WH positions on various issues, but not a place to advocate policy alternatives. The President must use every opportunity to repeat and reinforce the message.

This is an ADHD nation... they forget (the constant propaganda and lies help), what happened the day before... much less than the stated reasons for going into Iraq.

I agree, which is why the President needs media saavy people to devise attention getting ways to put out the message and information. The more the President can get his message out without the MSM filter the better. This is why press conferences are so critical. It also places some demands on the President's ability to express himself extemperaneously and demonstrate his command of the issue. Unfortunately for us, Bush is not the best of communicators. He is no Tony Blair.

[AliVeritas]

Thanks, I have to dig through my info. I'd have to see the memo, the date and who it came from, as you know there are many factions left over in intel. Will email Hayes as well.

A lot of training went on in Iraq and even Clarke himself knew that (lying POS that he is, but he got that right).

They probably didn't say it because they didn't have the heads inside to prove it. Everyone knows Saddam was down with AQ... and not just as money man. Though different, we can't prove that Mahmood ordered the IEDs to Iraq, but we know they did. Anyway, there are things cooking inside Iran now against the govt.

jveritas even has docs translated on his home page (found in Iraq), that are useful re: links.

[AliVeritas]

When will the Occidental Petro club via Sunlight Foundation come out on Nancy? When will the public get reminded of the defense contractor debacles via Murtha and Nancy? Anti-war... but not when it comes to the portfolio.

[STARWISE]

BUMP~~ !!

[isthisnickcool]

You know NOTHING about Reagan. You DO realize that right?

LOL! BS! I remember Ronald Reagan very well and have read extensively about him. I'd suggest "Reagan In His Own Hand" as a fine book.

With Reagan you knew what he believed and you knew what he stood for. Bush seemed the same way when he was Governor of Texas. He seemed like a guy to follow and support. I followed him and I supported him. Then he gets to Washington and starts his "new tone" garbage and proceeds to allow the Democrats and the media to slap him over and over while he "turns the other cheek". Movies and popcorn with Ted Kennedy? Laughing and backslapping with the Bill and Hillary's and others that spit at him? Who is George W. Bush? I don't know. Do you?

Like I said, with Ronald Reagan you knew what he believed in and what he thought about the opposition. Just go: here and listen to "A Time for Choosing".

In politics perception is a big thing. The public perception of a president is either driven by the CIC or he allows his opposition and the media to define him. Unfortunately Bush has not risen up above the noise to define himself.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Right on!

[FreeReign]

Right you are.

[edpc]

I don't know anyone who has figured him (Lieberman) out yet

Really. At least in the 50s, you knew who was pulling his strings. Now, it's anyone's guess.....

[PerConPat]

Iraq is part of the WOT. We just can't walk away from Iraq like we did in Vietnam.

Agreed. We shouldn't walk away from it; and we couldn't walk away from the GWOT if we tried. But true to form, the Leftists and their dupes are trying hard to do so. The fanatics will strike us again; and, tragically but inevitably, the damage will be great enough to overcome the current ravings of the termites on the Left and their enabling flock of pampered "peace at any price" sheeple.

All of the greatness that once was America was earned by folks who merely backhanded idiots like Juan Williams who once again demonstrated on FNS this morning the downside of free speech. Give things a little time, and be prepared. After the battle of Iraq is lost due to treasonous interference from the Left, the nation's attitude will be finally adjusted by an attack large enough to wake even the human offal that wastes oxygen under the fat part of the bell curve.

Don't be fooled by the prospect that we may yet prevail in Iraq etc.. The magnificent cretins à la Hagel etc. have already sent a message deep into radical Islam; the Islamofascists are more convinced than ever that time is on their side.

It was all stated with a dazzling precision centuries ago:

"But man, proud man, drest in a little brief authority, most ignorant of what he's most assured, his glassy essence, like an angry ape, plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven as make the angels weep."
-Bill Shakespeare

Have a great Daytona 500 Sunday, everyone.

[snugs]

Thank God he is no Tony Blair who most people in Britain see him for what he is

[Fishtalk]

I don't see how Bush could have stopped it, to tell the truth.

Well at the time I didn't either.

But now? Now that it's very clear to even the most obtuse that NO LAW was broken? There's no way to stop that thing?

I give up. I totally give up. If you all think Bush is doing a fine and upstanding job than I surely hope you're right. I am on my country's side and I'd rather be wrong than have my country or its soldiers suffer.

Every day I see so many opportunities, so many opportunities....and yet they never happen. Bush just lets it ride on by and now we've got the Dems OPENLY speculating on how to cause our military a slow bleed. It makes me physically sick and Lord I'd be so happy if my President would call a special address to the American people, from the Oval office during prime time, and if he would then go over the danger of slowly undermining our troops. If he did it right, direct and without evasion, I really believe the American people would turn against this Dem traitorous behavior BIG TIME.

You're mileage may vary.

[snugs]

LOL

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Right on!