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Foxnews Poll: Giuliani Leads McCain 56% - 31%
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/021507_release_web.pdf ^

Posted on 02/15/2007 3:20:42 PM PST by MittFan08

Rudy Building Lead Over McCain... [Rich Lowry]

...according to the new Fox News Poll. Asked who would they support in a Republican primary if the choices were McCain or Giuliani, 56% of Republicans said Giuliani, and 31% said McCain. 50% of Independents said Giuliani, and 27% said McCain. This represents a big bump for Giuliani since early December. Then, 42% of Republicans said they would pick Giuliani, 40% McCain, and 35% of Independents said they would support Giuliani while 41% said they would go with McCain.

02/15 05:34 PM

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To: Jim Robinson
Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan.

Jim, where's the next Ronald Reagan?

201 posted on 02/15/2007 8:28:10 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: potlatch

Nice Rudy animation!


202 posted on 02/15/2007 8:32:25 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik; devolve

Thank you nit, I've had some nice comments on it.


203 posted on 02/15/2007 8:34:32 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: BunnySlippers

Great poll and it's only going to get better! Just wait until Rudy makes the BIG announcement; he'll get an even bigger bump than anyone expects.


204 posted on 02/15/2007 8:37:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson

Upset? What did I write that ever made you imagine that?
I think you're imagining something that isn't there.

You asked questions. I answered them. If you didn't want me to answer them, why did you ask them?

As to the endorsements and swaying you, I don't want to sway you.

But when you post silly things like I'm not a conservative, it sort of cracks me up when I think of the good conservatives who have endorsed Rudy and how ya'll are willing to throw them under the bus.

Good luck finding that perfect conservative. I saw that you like Newt. FNC had a poll tonight and over 60% of Republicans said they'd never vote for him. He had the worst favorability ratings of any Republican running for the presidency (with the full understanding that he hasn't announced).

When you get a chance, let me know why you think I'm upset with you because that's a mystery to me. I enjoy debating but it is rather frustrating to get an answer like yours because it's not on point in any aspect.


205 posted on 02/15/2007 8:38:06 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: HitmanLV
He is the only guy on the scene with significant crossover appeal for the GOP



Shouldn't that be cross DRESSSER appeal????
The rudibootybots are making the bushbots
look like amateur beginners.
206 posted on 02/15/2007 8:41:00 PM PST by WKB (Duncan Hunter: Finally a Republican I can vote for without holding my nose.)
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To: trumandogz
Hillary with her box full of FBI Files will destroy Rudy.

You may be right about that. However, Hillary supposedly only had 9 hundred and something files. Over the past 6 years I have heard mention of at least 2000 people she has the goods on. Doesn't all add up. Somebody's file isn't in that box.

207 posted on 02/15/2007 8:45:20 PM PST by jerry639
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To: trumandogz

No, she hasn't "been campaigning against Rudy since 1996." And , again, no, she doesn't have Rudy's RAW FBI files; but, she has Newt's.


208 posted on 02/15/2007 8:46:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview

Nonsense. Giuliani will appoint judges in his own mold. If you listen to what he says you'll hear that he actually believes abortion "rights," gay "rights" and gun control "consistent with the second amendment" are constitutional. He therefore believes his judicial picks that think likewise will be "strict constructionists."


209 posted on 02/15/2007 8:52:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I wish Rudy had different positions on abortion and other issues.

But I try to live in the real world, and in that world we have a finite number of truly electable candidates for the Republican nomination. I am not under some delusion that another Ronald Reagan is going to magically appear on the scene. Rudy looks to me to be the best bet to defeat Hillary, so that's the starting point for my wanting to support him.

Beyond that, a lot changed for me after 9-11. It is now extremely important to me that if I put myself in the position of bin Laden with a suitcase nuke, I want a president in office who he is going to think "maybe I'd better not use this thing, or just maybe Mecca is going to go away." If Hillary were in charge, he'd probably risk it. I don't think he would if Rudy were calling those shots.

THAT is the issue that will drive my vote the most- who will protect my kids from the bin Ladens of the world? And I'm willing to overlook some things if I think I've found that candidate. If that makes me a bad conservative, so be it.


210 posted on 02/15/2007 8:53:03 PM PST by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: MittFan08

see tag line


211 posted on 02/15/2007 8:54:32 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: Jim Robinson

"Nonsense. Giuliani will appoint judges in his own mold."

The district and appellate court judges are submitted by nominations of the Senators in a particular state when they are Republicans or (I believe) the ranking Republican Congressman if there are no Republican Senators. That means that the same kind of judges will continue to be nominated as has been the case under Bush, for the district and appellate courts.

The Supreme Court nominees will all be Giuliani's call, but he's made a solemn promise to appoint conservative judges. It is the bargain he is making with his party. He's known as a man of his word, and, beyond that, he will know that the conservatives can always torpedo his re-election by nominating a third party candidate. I have little doubt that he will keep his word, even if he ideally would like to appoint more moderate judges.


212 posted on 02/15/2007 8:58:58 PM PST by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
The 2004 Republican Party Platform made the GOP position quite clear to me regarding the stance taken at that time (Aug. 2004) on abortion. Now if we are going to have Rudy as the nominee, it would appear - given his pro-choice stand- that some very difficult ground will have to be covered, lest a serious fracture result. Based on my reading of the excerpt that follows, from the 2004 platform, a Rudy nomination implies that some serious adjustments lie ahead for some folks.

Promoting a Culture of Life (pg. 92, 2004 Republican Party Platform)
"As a country, we must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services, and we commend Congressional Republicans for expanding assistance to adopting families and for removing racial barriers to adoption. We join the President in supporting crisis pregnancy programs and parental notification laws. And we applaud President Bush for allowing states to extend health care coverage to unborn children. We praise the President for his bold leadership in defense of life. We praise him for signing the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. This important legislation ensures that every infant born alive – including an infant who survives an abortion procedure – is considered a person under federal law.

We praise Republicans in Congress for passing, with strong bipartisan support, a ban on the inhumane procedure known as partial birth abortion. And we applaud President Bush for signing legislation outlawing partial birth abortion and for vigorously defending it in the courts.

In signing the partial birth abortion ban, President Bush reminded us that “the most basic duty of government is to defend the life of the innocent. Every person, however frail or vulnerable, has a place and a purpose in this world..."
213 posted on 02/15/2007 8:59:24 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: Jim Robinson
Could you explain your tagline, and how it is appropriate today?

Reagan had broad appeal. There is no candidate, off in the wings somewhere, that has that appeal.

Are you saying there was an unelectable, third-partyish conservative that helped him get elected?

Or are you saying it is better to lose 8 yrs of the White House on the chance the pendulum might swing far right... after the damage is done?

214 posted on 02/15/2007 9:05:06 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, voting for the "right-wing kook" as Coulter put it also got us Goldwater in 1964. Who was a great conservative, but I think he carried his home state of Arizona, a few deep south states and that's it. And LBJ's Great Society ensued.

Just think what Hillary has in store for us- socialized health care is a likely bet.


215 posted on 02/15/2007 9:08:45 PM PST by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ronald Reagan had name recognition, great conservative credentials, an incredible ability to comunicate and touch people, charisma and huge stones.

Unfortunately, men like that may come once in a lifetime, or even less.

Between them, we find the most electable.

The fact that a quarterback can't match up to a Dan Marino or a Joe Montana doesn't mean that he can't win games.


216 posted on 02/15/2007 9:10:59 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: MittFan08

Not impressive at all. Can't tell the difference between the two. Why vote at all. We will have a democratic President with these two anyway.


217 posted on 02/15/2007 9:11:06 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Jim Robinson

Let's say Alan Keyes had been elected President in 2000.

Do you think abortion would be legal today?

Do you think he would have served more than one term?
Do you think any of his SCJ choices would have been seated on the court?

Apparently, abortion is the top issue in this election, so please have each pro-life candidate explain, in detail, how they will stop abortion. Remember, it cannot be reduced or incremental... it must be stopped at once, as soon as possible once they take office.


218 posted on 02/15/2007 9:15:33 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: oceanview

Ted Olson:

From the article at The Spectator:

"I've known him for 26 years and we've talked about this many times," Olson said. "He feels very strongly that people like Justice Scalia, Chief Justice Roberts, Sam Alito, Clarence Thomas, are the type of people that he would put on the court…I'm quite convinced that this is a genuine viewpoint that he has."

But I can see that Olson is just another person a lot of freepers want to throw under the bus.


219 posted on 02/15/2007 9:16:49 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: potlatch


Potlatch Bump!


220 posted on 02/15/2007 9:18:17 PM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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