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Foxnews Poll: Giuliani Leads McCain 56% - 31%
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/021507_release_web.pdf ^

Posted on 02/15/2007 3:20:42 PM PST by MittFan08

Rudy Building Lead Over McCain... [Rich Lowry]

...according to the new Fox News Poll. Asked who would they support in a Republican primary if the choices were McCain or Giuliani, 56% of Republicans said Giuliani, and 31% said McCain. 50% of Independents said Giuliani, and 27% said McCain. This represents a big bump for Giuliani since early December. Then, 42% of Republicans said they would pick Giuliani, 40% McCain, and 35% of Independents said they would support Giuliani while 41% said they would go with McCain.

02/15 05:34 PM

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To: Peach

Reagan gave us two pro-Roe SCOTUS justices. now we can debate how it happened, but that fact is not in dispute. since then, republicans have correctly realized that we can't litmus test our federal court picks. for a couple of reasons - for one, they can't be confirmed anyway. and two, they can lie during the vetting process, then "flip" when they get the seat. so we now don't litmus test on issues, we choose constitutionalists - and we take our chances that when particular issues get to them, that they will rule based on a consistent legal philosophy. and yes, I do believe Rudy is capable of appointing judges like that.


181 posted on 02/15/2007 7:31:46 PM PST by oceanview
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To: TAdams8591

Let me just say, further to your post, that my support for Rudy isn't because I'm running scared.

I lived in CT and my husband and in the 80's my husband and I used to go into NYC several times a month. We ultimately stopped because the crime was so rampant we no longer felt safe. Rudy turned that around and we resumed visiting again.

I've had my eye on him since the early 90's, maybe since the late 80's. I've always thought he was too big to be just mayor, even though NYC's economy is bigger than all but 5-6 states.


182 posted on 02/15/2007 7:35:41 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: BearWash

I hope you all enjoy that echo chamber you're trying to establish.


183 posted on 02/15/2007 7:36:14 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

'94 was not a presidential year Newt wisely determined to make his contract appeal to a majority of voters and he limited the scope to address only the issues that congress could actually correct.

Prior to Newt's Contract with America, it was generally thought and stated, that "representative elections were local politics" and Newt abolished that thinking.

IMO, abortion belongs in the states, but Second Amendment rights do not. I will be voting for CIC and if Mayor Rudy wins the GOP nomination, he will get my vote.



184 posted on 02/15/2007 7:36:25 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: oceanview
but the voter demographics and mood of the electorate are sending us a different message. a viable, well known, conservative standard bearer with a message and the ability to deliver it has not emerged, and should have already. we cannot afford to lose to Hillary. I'll repeat again - WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE TO HILLARY. so all this stuff being tossed around on FR about "you are not a conservative if you support Rudy". I'm willing to give that up, if it means the Clintons don't get to sit in the white house again.

Well stated. Its about no Clinton in the White House again and the changing political landscape.
185 posted on 02/15/2007 7:38:07 PM PST by gipper81 (in case you didn't know, we are STILL cleaning up Jimmy Carter's crap from the 1970s)
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To: onyx
Same here. Whomever gets the nomination get my vote.

'94 was not a presidential year Newt wisely determined to make his contract appeal to a majority of voters and he limited the scope to address only the issues that congress could actually correct.

And that same appeal can happen again in 2008, unless people feel so far pushed to the right by the social conservatives that they opt out. See you tomorrow. I have a good book and husband waiting patiently :-)

186 posted on 02/15/2007 7:38:32 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
I've had my eye on him since the early 90's, maybe since the late 80's.

Your husband knows of your proclivities or in the Guliani mold, "Nothing Wrong with That!".

187 posted on 02/15/2007 7:38:42 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: onyx
"Foxnews Poll: Giuliani Leads McCain 56% - 31%"

If the presidential election were held today . . .

In a test of a couple matchups, Giuliani outperforms the Democratic candidates — even when a third party candidate is added to the mix.

By 45 percent to 39 percent, Giuliani bests Obama, with 16 percent undecided. Giuliani bests Clinton by a slightly wider margin: 49 percent to 40 percent, with 11 percent undecided.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252181,00.html


188 posted on 02/15/2007 7:38:43 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez


LOL! Leave it you, Luis!!


189 posted on 02/15/2007 7:40:02 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: BearWash

LOL.

I've actually said that I love and adore GWB and my husband has said he does too. He's not the jealous type :-)

Good night.


190 posted on 02/15/2007 7:40:14 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Good night, Peach. See you tomorry.


191 posted on 02/15/2007 7:41:18 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: All
(Just a reminder to conservatives out there... The Media ballgame is changing as we speak!...No longer can they call shots... And no longer we have to just "take it." No, we want to PARTICIPATE in the choosing of our Republican Presidential candidate)

BEWARE!... Social-conservatives, Christian conservatives or moral-conservatives of ANY KIND..

********************* WE NEED TO UNITE IN OUR PURPOSE!!! ************************

WHO? I don't know, but here we are, in the middle of the Internet revolution, and yet, I feel as if someone, somewhere, is pulling the strings to elect a LEFTY 'Republican,' leaving us conservatives out of the loop and I DON'T LIKE IT!

Who is calling the shots here?... I guess special interest(s) with $$ MONEY $$, I "hear" it already, someone literally telling me, "Go, go little unimportant people, go home...Leave this to the EXPERTS. We the smart people will let you know when to vote.. go on, get lost! - LOL.

I believe Guliani's CONSULTANTS tactic is simply to DIVIDE the Republicans. To attract as many Lefty Republicans (I still don't get used to the label /s) by selling Mr. Guiliani as the CHAMPION OF NATIONAL SECURITY! to us, but I would not be surprised if we get a new batch of "converts" from the 'other side,' to push him over the top. Either I am paranoid but actually BELIEVE this "adoration," for this guy is orchestrated by some special interest out there. Just because, yes, He cleaned up N.Y. and acted with leadership on 9/11... Great as those things are, does not make him the Republican Presidential candidate by default...HARDLY!

And I should say, if he were a social-conservative (as DUNCAN is) THEN, I would be pulling hard for him!... But as it is... THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I WILL VOTE FOR HIM!... Because if he gets elected, well, social-conservatives LOSE AND the LEFT WINS... That simple. All true social, Christian or Moral conservatives should above all, DENY our vote to the Left... And Rudy is the LEFT on social issues, and those are our issues.

So let's get excited about the challenge... Because I have this funny feeling that this maybe the first time THE PEOPLE will actually defeat the CONSULTANTES! :)

So Let's do it people. Let's show them we are not the dumb a*** they think we are :)

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192 posted on 02/15/2007 7:41:19 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 & Let's not forget, we are all still friends, basically :) despite our differences)
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To: Swordfished

>does Rudy favor judges that return some power to the states?

He says he is a strict constructionists when it comes to the Constitution, if that is so, then yes that would demand returning power back to where it belongs. He said gay marriage is a state issue, which is exactly true. He wants justices in the image of Alito and Scalia. Mitt and Duncan for sure want the same, but do they stand a better chance than Rudy to make it happen?


193 posted on 02/15/2007 7:41:33 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: ElPatriota

Absolutely. This conservative will never vote for a leftist, no matter how great of a Republican he is.


194 posted on 02/15/2007 7:45:54 PM PST by abishai
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To: Peach
I accept you are not included in the category of conservatives who are running scared.

I've been watching Guilianni since the early 90's, myself and NEVER cared for him. I always thought Mayor of New York was for him a perfect position. AND as far as he should go.

195 posted on 02/15/2007 7:48:42 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Liberal who cannot beat Hillary!)
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To: jeltz25
As far as I am concerned, I should be able to own a cannon if I choose to.

"That argument has been going on for 150 years and there's plausible arguments on both sides." From your post.

We will not decide the fate of the Second vs. the Fourteenth this evening. But here is an interesting piece:

"The Supreme Court has since abandoned the position that the Bill of Rights does not apply to the states. The Supreme Court in 1992 stated, "Thus all fundamental rights comprised within the term liberty are protected by the Federal Constitution from invasion by the States." "The most familiar of the substantive liberties protected by the Fourteenth Amendment are those recognized by the Bill of Rights." "... rights already guaranteed to the individual against federal interference by the express provisions of the first eight amendments to the Constitution."

Rudy is a Liberal, I do not support Liberals, He could never qualify my vote in a million years.

Rudy Giuliani announces lawsuit against gun companies
In his own words... Right here!

196 posted on 02/15/2007 7:56:57 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: All
...Absolutely. This conservative will never vote for a leftist, no matter how great of a Republican he is....

:)...Sure, we know times change.. it's not a secret that the parties have become more ideological on both sides. We are not different from the left with their own issues, in that we are TIRED of mediore. BSs, politicians that don't seem to have the strenght of character to have firm convictions on anything! I am tired of that!... And so we... Becuase of the internet perhaps, have a voice now, to demand someone different, someone with character, with one face on most issues. No we are not looking for a "saint," but for a person difference from they crapp they are pusing in our faces.

Perhpas the time has come for us social/moral conservatives to think of ourselves as "Conservatives" FIRST and Republican SECOND.

Because I am social issues conservative I became a Republican. The day The Republican party becomes another cespool like the Democrats... Then there is not reason for me to be a Republican anymore. And although I care about fiscal responsability, state rights, less taxes etc... Nothing trumps Social issues/ National Security (included border/Immigration problem) for me and I am sure for many other social/moral conservatives. And DUNCAN it is a splendid choice on all those issues and many more of his positions.

Third party perhaps? :)

197 posted on 02/15/2007 8:10:30 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 & Let's not forget, we are all still friends, basically :) despite our differences)
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To: Peach

Now, now. No need to get upset with me. You're the one who's talking yourself in circles trying to defend the indefensible.


198 posted on 02/15/2007 8:17:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Thanks for the ping.

Rudy is running strong in the party.

The party outside Arizona has a clear memory of McCain's perennial vocal opposition to the president's policies.

McCain is trying now to ingratiate himself by cozying up to the religious right and being a vocal supporter of the troop surge.

His problem is his record of loudly trumpeting the horrible abuses of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, of being a cheerleader for terrorists' rights, of being a wrench in the works giving him the press coverage he craves and the enemy the aid and comfort it craves.

For the latter there is no statute of limitations.

199 posted on 02/15/2007 8:22:04 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Peach
By the way, endorsements by Sessions, Tyrell or others are not going to sway me. Giuliani is for abortion rights, gay rights and gun control, etc. He uses a liberally twisted interpretation of the constitution to justify his unconstitutional positions. He actually believes he is a strict constructionist. No thanks. Not qualified for high office.
200 posted on 02/15/2007 8:24:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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