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To: PhiKapMom

I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results.


24 posted on 02/14/2007 9:49:54 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all.

Well, hell's bell's man, kick us all out, then. After all, gotta have plenty of beans to count!

27 posted on 02/14/2007 9:51:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results.

Don't judge all social conservatives by the vicious FR anti-Rudy crowd.

29 posted on 02/14/2007 9:52:09 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results."

And how exactly do you arrive at such a conclusion? Where's your evidence?

45 posted on 02/14/2007 10:00:42 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Guilianni is a Liberal who cannot beat Hillary!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results."

Huh? Pro God, pro life, pro family, pro individual rights, pro constitution, pro small government, pro low taxes, pro defense conservative here. I favor ripping out the unconstitutional big government programs by the roots. Strip the government down to what the founders intended and it'd be about a tenth of the size it is now. And while we're at it, repeal the 16th and 17th amendments, abolish the income tax, social security and medicare, and return the power to the states and the people as intended.

If you're talking about Roe vs Wade, etc, that's liberal activism at its worse and should be overturned. The people are perfectly able to handle issues like abortion, marriage, etc, at the state level. Always have in the past and should be able to continue in the future, free of big government intrusion.

49 posted on 02/14/2007 10:02:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all.

All the same, Santorum didn't get re-elected did he? Why - because he lost the social conservatives by supporting Arlen "Scottish Law" Specter. I don't agree with your characterization of s.c. by the way.

50 posted on 02/14/2007 10:03:19 PM PST by ikka
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results.

I agree completely. Both the far right and the far left want more Government not less interference in the daily lives of people. I am a less government person who believes social issues belong in my home, my church, my community, and my State. I don't send my Congressman to D.C. to deal with social issues.

60 posted on 02/14/2007 10:08:35 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

"I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all."

You're spot on.

I will take a liberal fascist like Rudy any day!


197 posted on 02/15/2007 6:26:36 AM PST by LongsforReagan (Go Rudy)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. ...

Yes, almost like Nationalist Socialists. If you have done nothing wrong and you're papers are in order you have nothing to fear.

217 posted on 02/15/2007 7:34:55 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results.

Oh, that's special. Rudy took guns away from law-abiding Americans. He supported government funding for abortions. He believes in global warming, proponents of which seek to hamstring our economy. And he's in favor of CFR.

Yet somehow he's conservative. And we are not.

I don't think I have seen such destruction of the clear meaning of words outside of Supreme Court decisions.

224 posted on 02/15/2007 7:42:14 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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