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To: gov_bean_ counter
"I have come to the conclusion that "social conservatives" are not conservative at all. They don't opine for less intrusive government. Not at all. They want the same level of government intervention as the libs, just with different results."

Huh? Pro God, pro life, pro family, pro individual rights, pro constitution, pro small government, pro low taxes, pro defense conservative here. I favor ripping out the unconstitutional big government programs by the roots. Strip the government down to what the founders intended and it'd be about a tenth of the size it is now. And while we're at it, repeal the 16th and 17th amendments, abolish the income tax, social security and medicare, and return the power to the states and the people as intended.

If you're talking about Roe vs Wade, etc, that's liberal activism at its worse and should be overturned. The people are perfectly able to handle issues like abortion, marriage, etc, at the state level. Always have in the past and should be able to continue in the future, free of big government intrusion.

49 posted on 02/14/2007 10:02:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: Jim Robinson
#49...

I agree with all your points, however, some on this board who claim to be social conservatives seem to want Federal legislation that achieves their own goals as opposed to getting the Federal Government out of the way and returning control to the states.

Sorry about the broad brush.

61 posted on 02/14/2007 10:09:01 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: Jim Robinson
Huh? Pro God, pro life, pro family, pro individual rights, pro constitution, pro small government, pro low taxes, pro defense conservative here. I favor ripping out the unconstitutional big government programs by the roots. Strip the government down to what the founders intended and it'd be about a tenth of the size it is now. And while we're at it, repeal the 16th and 17th amendments, abolish the income tax, social security and medicare, and return the power to the states and the people as intended.

Agreed entirely, Boss. The GOP definitely has some soul-searching to do. But we simply can't lose the WOT, so we'll have to keep our eyes on the prize incrementally. Many of us are involved in the GOP, down to our precincts/neighborhoods. The primary season, for some reason, has started early this cycle. We're All On The Same Team. We'll see how the political process plays out.

My vote in the general is for the Republican, regardless of who it is. Even McCain (though, like I've said before, I'll likely need smelling salts).

Let's not kill each others' resolve here.

64 posted on 02/14/2007 10:12:20 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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