[don-o]

Just as I suspected.

[nmh]

Giuliani and his IMMORAL positions on issues is precisely what we do NOT need for keep fueling our moral free fall.
Who wants to live in a wealthy Sodom & Gomorrah like society?

I don't. More than tax cuts are needed - restore morality! Giuliani will NEVER get my political vote.

[don-o]

However, when Republicans are told in the context of the survey that Giuliani supports same-sex civil unions and holds a pro-choice position on abortion, the net effect on their expressed chances of backing him is negative. Knowing his social views, more than 4 in 10 Republicans indicate a reduced willingness to support Giuliani. Twenty-five percent say they would be less willing to vote for him, and 18% say they would rule out voting for him entirely.

[TitansAFC]

Wow!

43% Of Republicans, when informed of his views, are unlikely to support him or just rule out his candidacy entirely.

And about as many Republicans think he's Pro-life as do Pro-Choice.

It is just as I suspected. Once they learn the truth about Margaret Sanger's Republican, they run away.

[Peach]

Not so fast.

Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.

In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/

[don-o]

ping

[Kate of Spice Island]

I think his views puts the moral choice in the hands of the individual.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

While I personally would never have an abortion for my own moral reasons, I won't impose it on anyone else. It is God's job to judge them and if in the end, they judge themselves hsrshly for doing so, so be it. Those that fail to self-judge and repeat the same act will not win God's favor.

With the gay agenda, I tend to see the whole person and if I get to know someone and they choose an alternative lifestyle, it is still not my place to judge. If the individual has a clear and compassionalte heart and treats others as Jesus would, then they are living a more righteous life than those that choose to do Jesus' job here on earth.

While it may be "wrong" in the eyes of God to have an abortion or be gay, it is also wrong to do God's job and to judge, condemn and inflict personal values on another.

There will be no doubt that someone will be tempted to flame me and that, too, is not very Christian.

WWJP

[WalterSkinner]

..right now, it is mainly name recognition--give it a few months, then we'll see...

[Echo Talon]

Rudy gets my vote, he was for Alito and Roberts and also likes Scalia...

[DocH]

giuliani is extraordinarily well-liked and respected by the American public.

Don't include me.

I think he's liberal RINO scum.

[Sarah]

I lived in NYC before and through his term.
It was simply a different city. He has quite liberal views on issues I feel are so important, but the reality is he lowered abortions by making options available. It's hard to reconcile it, but he talks liberal and moves society to the right.
I'll never forget the time, after his wife threw him out of Gracie Mansion (!), how he moved in with a close friend and his 'partner'. He joked about the peaceful household on his weekly radio show... I don't look at what he says, but what he did.

[ElPatriota]

...And if Rudy were not running for president, I would leave him alone. But since he is being "sold" as a 'conservative,' then, we must act. sorry.

BEWARE!... Social-conservatives, Christian conservatives or moral-conservatives of ANY KIND..

********************* WE NEED TO UNITE IN OUR PURPOSE!!! ************************

WHO? I don't know, but here we are, in the middle of the Internet revolution, and yet, I feel as if someone, somewhere, is pulling the strings to elect a LEFTY 'Republican,' leaving us conservatives out of the loop and I DON'T LIKE IT!

Who is calling the shots here?... I guess special interest(s) with $$ MONEY $$, I "hear" it already, someone literally telling me, "Go, go little unimportant people, go home...Leave this to the EXPERTS. We the smart people will let you know when to vote.. go on, get lost! - LOL.

I believe Guliani's CONSULTANTS tactic is simply to DIVIDE the Republicans. To attract as many Lefty Republicans (I still don't get used to the label /s) by selling Mr. Guiliani as the CHAMPION OF NATIONAL SECURITY! to us, but I would not be surprised if we get a new batch of "converts" from the 'other side,' to push him over the top. Either I am paranoid but actually BELIEVE this "adoration," for this guy is orquestrated by some special interest out there. Just because, yes, He cleaned up N.Y. and acted with leadership on 9/11... Great as those things are, does not make him the Republican Presidential candidate by default...HARDLY!

And I should say, if he were a social-conservative (as DUNCAN is) THEN, I would be pushing hard for him!... But as it is... THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I WILL VOTE FOR HIM!... Because if he gets elected, well, social-conservatives LOSE AND the LEFT WINS... That simple. All true social, Christian or Moral conservatives should above all, DENY our vote to the Left... And Rudy is the LEFT on social issues, and those are our issues.

So let's get excited about the challenge... Because I have this funny feeling that this maybe the first time THE PEOPLE will actually defeat the CONSULTANTES! :)

So Let's do it people. Let's show them we are not the dumb a*** they think we are :)

[Coldwater Creek]

Good post!

[freedomfiter2]

At the same time, his views on abortion and same-sex civil unions are unknown to most rank and file Republicans.


I don't suppose this has anything to do with his poll numbers.

[Afronaut]

However, when Republicans are told in the context of the survey that Giuliani supports same-sex civil unions and holds a pro-choice position on abortion, the net effect on their expressed chances of backing him is negative.

Oh My! I see a downhill slide coming around the bend for St. Rudy. Thank Goodness.

[JSDude1]

me too, the problem: by the time the "electorate" (Republican base)) find out, the elitist will already have 'annointed him' and he will have sucked money from true conservatives that may wish to enter the race..

[PerConPat]

I noticed the absence in the poll of metrics on the effects of Rudy's stand on gun control. I'm sure this would also have decreased his positives. I am increasingly sensing that Rudy's popularity amongst some Pubs is actually the result of his stances on abortion and self-defense. If this proves to be a significant theme, we may well be headed for a crackup. For my part, I will continue to support the most Conservative candidates until the Primaries are decided, then take another look at the situation. Interesting times...

[dirtboy]

Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.

Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.

Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.

Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.

Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.

One cannot repeat this enough. The Dems certainly will if Rudy is nominated.

[HitmanLV]

Giuliani's Social Views Not Well Known

Indeed. I have seen him casually (and chronically) referred to as an 'abortionist' here on FR, for example.

Of course, an 'abortionist' is someone who actually preforms abortions. So that's an example of his views not being well known on FR.

That, or English is not the primary language on FR these days.

[servantboy777]

"Giuliani is extraordinarily well-liked and respected by the American public."

"He also ties with or leads Arizona Sen. John McCain as the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in recent Gallup polls"

Oh Lord.......help us.

Giulinai and McCain are way too liberal.

HEY! GOP, why don'tcha just hand the White House to the Liberal socialist. What the H@ll is wrong with the republican party?

I can't tell the difference between the two parties now days.

[Theo]

Someone's wanting Rudy to be President. It's not normal Republicans.