[Hambone02]

Yeah. Like I've been saying: RUDY IS NO CONSERVATIVE!

[Patrick1]

The Romney crowd is heard from.

[kjo]

If the GOP nominates McCain or Rudy G. millions of conservatives will seek a third party. Okay, so it elects Hillary. I DON'T CARE. We can get through four years of Hillary, we got through four years of Carter.

If the GOP thinks we have no where else to go, I have news for them: the Constitution Party is making a lot of sense. Google them.

[areafiftyone]

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[RC2]

Yeah, and he got rid of all the hookers in New York. Now what is a guy supposed to do when going there? There's just no justice in this world I tell ya.

[familyop]

...true. Look at the evidence (instead of the rhetoric from Giuliani fans), and draft Gingrich/Duncan.

Newt Gingrich on the issues
http://www.ontheissues.org/Newt_Gingrich.htm

Duncan Hunter on the issues.
http://www.ontheissues.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm

[gondramB]

>>What about a climate where same-sex couples are given the same legal status as married couples, whether the resulting arrangements are candidly called “same-sex marriages,” or are semantically papered-over with terms such as “civil unions” or “domestic partnerships”?<<

I'm not a Guiliani supporter and will never vote for him in the primary (although I'll certainly vote for the closest to true conservative in the general which might be Rudy if he gets the nomination.)

But there is an important distinction between same-sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships.

The government has no business legalizing same sex marriage or civil unions - marriage is something we incent because we believe that is the best way to raise a family. Its not just same sex couples who can't marry - its also people with communicable VD, close relatives and people who are already married - because the government has no business encouraging those kinds of relationships.

Domestic partnerships are different. The doctrine of equal rights but no special rights dictates that any two (or three ) sane adults should be able to enter into a legally binding private contract and to hold whatever religious ceremony they wish. There are all kinds of people who form families other than one man/ one woman couples. Its not just same sex couples - it could be a Grandmother raising a grandchild or two elderly siblings carrying for each other. Everyone should be free to enter private agreements and form a family of choice but not to get government rewards for it.

[eleni121]

RUDY IS NO CONSERVATIVE!

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I'm with you on this but in these perilous times I would even vote for him rather than live to see any Democrap in the WH.

[TAdams8591]

Excellent article! Thank you for the post. Guilianni is a Liberal who I believe neither deserves, or will get, the Republican nomination for the presidency. If by some set of odd cirumstances he does get the nod, Republicans should be prepared to lose.

[Blackirish]

On Fox Roundtable last nite....

BARNES: The truth is, I think he has an excellent chance of winning the nomination. I wouldn't make him the frontrunner right now, I think the McCain still is. But people like him. There's a reason why his polls have stood up so well, it's not because voters are stupid and don't know about his social liberalism, which is there. But he's not running on it. He's running on these other things and he's not trying to stick his views on abortion and gay civil unions and so on down the throats of conservative voters who don't want that.

He's running on low taxes and what he did in New York. I think there are two striking things about Rudy -- Rudy Giuliani that no other candidate can match -- one, it's the whole 9/11 thing, where he was in a crisis and we saw how he performed. He performed extremely well. And secondly, it's New York City when he was mayor. You know, you can go to New York City and feel and see the difference that he made in that city as mayor. And I don't think you can say that about any mayor in any other city in the country.

HUME: And maybe not about many governors.

[My2Cents]

This has already been posted something like three times.

[hosepipe]

Simply..... Its Newt Gingrich for President -OR-..
The Republican party WILL fracture to smithereens..

George Bush(both of them) (and Bob Dole) cured many die hard pubbies(LIKE ME)..
Hillary gets elected?.. so what.. odds are she will get elected ANYWAY..
Bush BARELY WON both times..

2000 he ran against a moron and in 2004 against a longfaced traitor..
How convient.. I refuse to be herded like a sheep(anymore)..
If Newt don't make thru the primarys I'm going 3rd party..
Newt seems to be the ONLY pubbie with gravitas..

The republican party is ALREADY fractured the RINO pundits are oblivious (as usual)..
2008 is Hillarys to lose.. She won't.. and Bush WILL NOT address the border..
Its Newt Gingrich or the republican party is thru..

Hope the Constitution Party will have time to do something..
before they are OUTLAWED.. and its leaders liquidated..

[BibChr]

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[sick1]

Conservative or not, the author really twists the concept that Rudy was making at the time. Rudy's police enforcement program was based in part on the Broken Window Theory. The theory states that small, seemingly inconsequential law breaking set an environment for much larger law breaking. While I don't like it, currently partial birth infanticide is the law of the land.
If the author wanted to write an article stating that Rudy is too pro-life, he could have done it without revealing himself as an intellectual lightweight to lazy to do basic research into the premise on which he based his article. As far as Rudy for prez, I'm unsure myself. I'd like someone more conservative but I balance that against the potential that he may have coattails. If we could get more conservatives into congress (which he'll be obliged to campaign for like made to keep his base secure during the election) and take back the house and senate with some real leaders (Pence vs. Bohner) I'd be happy with Rudy. He's a conservative until it comes to social issues. But Rudy as the man holding the line against a strongly liberal congress, not so good past the war on terror and maybe 2-3 more SC judges. But then again, all things beat president Hillary or Obama.

[newzjunkey]

Rudy is not a serious candidate. He's been a federal prosecutor and a *MAYOR*. His record and positions are barely in the same universe as the Republican platform.

[dleecomeback07]

And anyone who stays home or votes for Hillary or Obama in november 08 is not a conservative either if Rudy is the republican candidate.

Anyone that would vote for any democrat or stay at home because the republican is not everything you agree with is not only not a conservative but hates this country.

I love my country more than I am a one issue conservative.

Having an IQ above 5 I know that while I don't agree with him or McCain on everything I know I agree with them on everything more than Hillary or Obama and it would be 10,000 times worse with one of them in the WH.

Of course we have the stay at homes who voted against our troops last November because they hate our troops.

[Clemenza]

Let's not forget that Rudy is unqualified to be President, as he was not born, nor does he live in AMERICA!

[Candor7]

Yeah. Like I've been saying: RUDY IS NO CONSERVATIVE!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

May I say one more thing to add to your line?

RUDY IS NO REPUBLICAN.

He left his party affiliation blank in his presidential nomination campaign filing, so he would be free to run as an independent if he does not get the nomination. He intends to split the Republican vote if he does not get what he wants.

Rudy is an accident waiting to happen to the Republican Party. Since Rudy's party affilliation is left blank in his paperwork,, the Republican Party should not even let him into the convention hall.