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Neanderthals among us?
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Posted on 02/06/2007 7:07:15 PM PST by Soothesayer

DID ANATOMICALLY modern humans interbreed with Neanderthals, the muscle-bound, big-browed and possibly mute cave dwellers who disappeared from Europe and the Middle East about 30,000 years ago? The answer may be less interesting than the fact that so many Homo sapiens are fixated on the question. The debate about whether there's a Neanderthal skeleton in our collective closet was revived last week when two groups of scientists reported that they had deciphered DNA from the thigh bone of a Neanderthal man who lived in Croatia 38,000 years ago. From their analysis of genetic material in the bone, the scientists estimated that Neanderthals and the modern people who supplanted them had 99.5% of their genes in common. This will come as an unpleasant surprise to anyone who remembers the film "Clan of the Cave Bear," in which a comely Cro-Magnon played by Daryl Hannah was adopted into a clan of brutish Neanderthals. But it will cheer anthropologists who argue that if you gave a Neanderthal a bath, a haircut and an iPod, he would blend in with any contemporary crowd. Since the discovery in the 19th century of Neanderthal remains in Germany's Neander Valley, scientific opinion has seesawed between the idea that Neanderthals were an evolutionary dead end only distantly related to modern humans and the view that at least some Neanderthals felt the urge to merge with smarter, nimbler modern humans who left Africa about 100,000 years ago.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dna; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neanderthal; neanderthals; piltdownman
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To: To Hell With Poverty

And I think Helen graduated with Calamity Jane. Or maybe her older sister. Or maybe her mother.


81 posted on 03/20/2007 8:25:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

And besides, that's really insulting to Neandertals.


82 posted on 03/20/2007 8:26:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fso301
His odd-shaped skull is even more evident in that video.

Any chance that he has Alma ancestry ?

83 posted on 03/20/2007 11:05:07 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: To Hell With Poverty
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84 posted on 03/21/2007 8:05:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Sunday, March 11, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NucSubs
Yeah...like that Bible thing. That some imagination huh?

Some imagination? Yes. God's. He imaged it and then made it happen.

85 posted on 03/21/2007 4:46:56 PM PDT by Bellflower (A Brand New Day Is Coming!)
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To: shuckmaster
The question we all want to answer is whether or not Humans and Neanderthals were still genetically close enough to produce fertile offspring after they came back into contact with each other between 50,000-35,000 ya.

There have been some stories indicating that there were very different rates of maturation, unfortunately I do not have the link.
I have also seen the theory that a mother's breasts have the curve that they do because it allows a baby to both nurse and breathe. Since most of the fossils that I have seen indicate that Neandertals had much more forward projecting faces, a female Neandertal would likely be considered to be flat chested by modern humans, and if the hybrid had a significantly flatter face than a Neandertal baby it would likely be suffocated while trying to nurse.

Just another theory why successful interbreeding between humans and Neandertals would be extremely unlikely.

86 posted on 03/21/2007 5:49:25 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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To: Soothesayer

And with a 97% DNA match, we'd be called gorillas!


87 posted on 03/21/2007 9:31:15 PM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: NicknamedBob

Just slap a hat on Oink and jab him in the ribs when the sheriff asks his name...


88 posted on 03/22/2007 6:57:26 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: Pelham

I keep wondering if that was a Jerry Clower story.

He had some good ones.


89 posted on 03/22/2007 7:14:59 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: NicknamedBob

That could be. My father is of the same generation and the same part of the country as Clower, and he told me a variation of that joke 50 yrs ago.


90 posted on 03/22/2007 9:56:44 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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