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This is well thought out and reasoned.
1 posted on 02/02/2007 5:37:46 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Morality and capitalism are separate but not exclusive of each other. A good capitalist has more to give and he does give. He gives not because someone takes it, he gives because it's the right thing to do.


2 posted on 02/02/2007 5:42:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: shrinkermd

Interesting article. I have something further to add. Today, Hillary Clinton professed that the oil company profits need to be taken away and given to the little companies. I say: if you believe in redistribution of wealth, then why don't you take away the profit from Comcast corporation for their record 3rd quarter profit (today's paper alongside the Exxon article...Star and Trib.). If you further have disdain for capitalism, then take away Bill Clinton's profits from his speeches.

I have come to the conclusion that the libs don't know diddly squat about economics!


3 posted on 02/02/2007 5:45:25 PM PST by jcmfreedom
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To: shrinkermd

BUMP TO A GREAT ARTICLE!


4 posted on 02/02/2007 5:45:58 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: shrinkermd
Capitalism is not moral or immoral.

It is amoral like gravity.

And like gravity it cannot be ignored.

Also, like gravity we can put it to work for us or try to deny it exists and be crushed by it.

5 posted on 02/02/2007 5:48:11 PM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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"How Moral Is Capitalism?"

Compared to the immorality of every other economic system, capitalism looks pretty good. It is consistent with human nature and is inherently fair if unforgiving.

Taking from those that have money simply because they have it is not just socialism, it's the morality of Willie Sutton

6 posted on 02/02/2007 5:50:07 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: shrinkermd

bttt


7 posted on 02/02/2007 5:51:41 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: shrinkermd

In my opinion, we are a lesser nation because we do not require the reading of and testing on the following documents:

The Republic
The Declaration of Independence
The Constitution
The Federalist papers
The Wealth of Nations
The Prince


9 posted on 02/02/2007 5:56:37 PM PST by taxcontrol
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"But most agree on this: Capitalism works, but it is insufficiently moral."

NONSENSE.

But even if so capitalism is certainly more moral than big government socialism.

Taking from those who produce at the point of a gun to give to the nonproductive is patently immoral.

10 posted on 02/02/2007 5:58:12 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Liberals are more skeptical. They know capitalism will produce losers as well as winners. They feel the winners must be forced into helping the losers.

Capitalists are neither skeptical by nature nor into 're-distribution'...Liberals are selective capitalists for themselves and socialists for all others.

Liberals and conservatives do not agree on capitalism.

11 posted on 02/02/2007 5:59:12 PM PST by NewLand (The most quoted FReeper on obscure anti-Free Republic websites)
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"How moral is capitalism?"
To about the same degree as the strength and saturation of that smell of Tuesdays [all days smell different]. It does not have anything to do with morality, nor should it.
13 posted on 02/02/2007 5:59:59 PM PST by GSlob
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To take from earners to give to shirkers is actually a form of slavery..

If you do not own what you earn then you might as well be wearing a slave collar.


14 posted on 02/02/2007 6:07:09 PM PST by TASMANIANRED
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To: shrinkermd

The real question is "How moral is liberalism?"


15 posted on 02/02/2007 6:10:54 PM PST by Hattie
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great article, and right on!


16 posted on 02/02/2007 6:14:18 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize?
Run in such a way as to get the prize. 1 Corinthians 9:24


18 posted on 02/02/2007 6:18:49 PM PST by Vision ("Delight yourself in the Lord; and he will give you your heart's desires." Psalm 37:4)
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"Smithers, give all the employees a 5 dollar bonus this Christmas, that should get them a pint of Egg Nog"

19 posted on 02/02/2007 6:19:32 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: shrinkermd
If morality and capitalism are conflated (why I have no clue), perhaps a better question than how moral is capitalism is how immoral are economic systems not based on capitalism
22 posted on 02/02/2007 6:22:50 PM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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Smith defined self-interest not as selfishness or greed but as a psychological need to win favor within one's society.

Having travelled through Scotland a bit and being of Scottish ancestry, I noted that the Scots are a very tribal bunch.

I would argue for a capitalism with a bit of regard to 'helpin mah wee mates in the clan'.

24 posted on 02/02/2007 6:25:58 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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Rand on the fact American Capitalism is the only moral political system:

"Capitalism is a social system based on the recognition of individual rights, [emphasis mine] including property rights, in which all property is privately owned." [Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal, "Theory And History, 1. What Is Capitalism?"]

"'Rights' are a moral concept [emphasis mine]—the concept that provides a logical transition from the principles guiding an individual's actions to the principles guiding his relationship with others—the concept that preserves and protects individual morality in a social context—the link between the moral code of a man and the legal code of a society, between ethics and politics. Individual rights are the means of subordinating society to moral law.

"....

"The most profoundly revolutionary achievement of the United States of America was the subordination of society to moral law.

"The principle of man's individual rights represented the extension of morality into the social system—as a limitation on the power of the state, as man's protection against the brute force of the collective, as the subordination of might to right. The United States was the first moral society in history.

"....

"The United States regarded man as an end in himself, and society as a means to the peaceful, orderly, voluntary co-existence of individuals. All previous systems had held that man's life belongs to society, that society can dispose of him in any way it pleases, and that any freedom he enjoys is his only by favor, by the permission of society, which may be revoked at any time. The United States held that man's life is his by right (which means: by moral principle and by his nature), that a right is the property of an individual, that society as such has no rights, and that the only moral purpose of a government is the protection of individual rights.

"A 'right' is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man's freedom of action in a social context. There is only one fundamental right (all the others are its consequences or corollaries): a man's right to his own life." [Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal, "Appendix: Man's Rights"]

I become very impatient by those who presume to defend Capitalism as thought it needed some other "moral" basis; this kind of defense is worse than a direct attack. The American Capitalist system is the most moral system in history and all its faults are in those aspects which have compromises the principles of individual liberty and property rights on which it is based.

Hank

25 posted on 02/02/2007 6:28:30 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: shrinkermd
Yesterday, Rush took a call from a complete idiot. The thing I remember the most about his was that he seemed to believe that one's wage should be based on one's need, rather than your value to the employer. Rush toyed with the guy, claiming he had been insulted by the caller, for saying he only made 7 million dollars a year, and the guy kept working it down.

The key is that the caller illustrated one of the greatest differences between conservatives and liberals.

Conservatives believe that one should live by higher standards, and they trust people to do the right thing. Liberals believe that people are just talking apes, and are unable to rise above their base, animal instincts. And therin lies the key difference. Conservatives believe that people can be trusted to do the "right thing," as long as they subscribe to a general morality. Liberals believe that people will never do the right thing on their own (with the exception of THEMSELVES) which is why they have no problem with telling people how they should live, and more importantly, why they need to live a certain way, and they depend on the government to ensure that people are forced to do just that.

Mark

27 posted on 02/02/2007 6:32:14 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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This is well thought out and reasoned.

This article is moronic. It is not well thought out, other than the concept that everyone should have everything and no one profits. Why produce anything then? Simplistic socialism, communism,liberalism.. whatever. Name one place this works other than in the liberal's dreams? this writer would be dumpster diving if Forbes wasn't a profit making operation. How this halfwitted socialist gets paid is beyond me.

29 posted on 02/02/2007 6:36:30 PM PST by bfree (I)
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