Posted on 01/30/2007 7:30:32 AM PST by Notwithstanding
Two New Books Confirm Global Warming is Natural; Not Caused By Human Activity Tue Jan 30 2007 10:02:32 ET
Two powerful new books say today’s global warming is due not to human activity but primarily to a long, moderate solar-linked cycle. Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years, by physicist Fred Singer and economist Dennis Avery was released just before Christmas. The Chilling Stars: A New Theory of Climate Change, by Danish physicist Henrik Svensmark and former BBC science writer Nigel Calder (Icon Books), is due out in March. --- break --- Unstoppable Global Warming documents the reality of a moderate, natural, 1500-year climate cycle on the earth. The Chilling Stars explains the why and how.
(Excerpt) Read more at drudgereport.com ...
You've captured the essence of the man. Big Bad Al Gore, in the ring, breaking the rules in an attempt to make things go his way.
you mean the Sun could have a hiccup, and all of our environmental laws and good intentions would go up in a flame? rofl
I disagree. A technology which can adjust incident solar radiation several percent up and down could operate on a timescale well inside the timescale of natural climate change. Such a technology could easily be feasible this century.
Whether or not it'd be worth the price is another matter.
Only if one assumes that the climate change is a bad thing. Global warming may well have a beneficial effect.
She's probably as qualified as Dennis Avery, who is one of the authors of the first of the two books mentioned in the Drudge blurb. Avery is an economist, not a scientist, which makes him no more qualified than an English teacher, Mary Kay salesperson, or Al Gore to give a scientific opinion on global warming.
I had the privilege of sitting next to him for two days at a conference back in the late 80s. It was held at the Watergate Hotel in DC and was on the impact of Clean Air Act where various speakers from industry, government agencies and environmental lobbying groups discussed the then proposed Clean Air Act and it's impact on the environment, industry and the economy.
I had no idea who Singer was at the time --- just a nice old guy who's card said he was on loan from the University of Virginia to the Dept. of Transportation. We engaged in some small talk during breaks etc., but nothing of any importance. He asked a few questions of speakers at the time but saved his ammo for the final speaker -- a female Senate Staffer (from Al Gore's office IIRC) who actually wrote the details of the CAA. He let her her have it with both barrels when he demanded details of why they chose such and such a level of permittable acid and how much it would cost consumers to reach that level. He cited EPA reports that proved that Acid Rain was not what was causing trees to die in Canada and New England --- (it was a fungal blight) He just peppered her with one question after another and she finally blew up and said to the effect... (this is not a direct quote, but close.)
"Damit Dr. Singer, you know that acid rain is not a problem, I know that acid rain is not a problem, but the public thinks it's a problem and damnit, we're going to solve that problem."
Singer just smiled and said thank you and sat down while the woman kind of huffed off the stage. That was pretty much the end of the conference.
I learned two things there.
1. Washington is not about reality but about perceptions and spreading tax dollars around -- everybody got money in the CAA.
2. Fred Singer is a tough guy who deals in facts.
How long till the heresy trial for these two? I mean the UN human rights trial.
Notice I am not joking. Someone will attempt to prosecute these guys in some form.
I admit that I am not a scientist, and therefore must rely to some extent on the opinions of scientists on this issue. I think the majority of Americans are like me, with open minds, but not alot of knowledge. There must be a way to hold scientists accountable for their opinions on this issue, as they will carry such enormous weight. If global warming is real and man-made, then guys like this need to be called to account when we realize he was wrong but that it has become too late to do anything about it. On the other hand, if it is NOT man-made, then the alarmist scientists must be called to account for the damage they have done to the qworld economy with their alarmism.
It's hard to fight groupthink. There are many reasons among greens to try and convince others of their argument and they are slowly winning in the media, government, and academics despite contrary evidence.
There is one motive though...... power.
The power of socialism where the elite tell the masses what they can and cannot do. The same elite who live in huge mansions, fly private jets, and have vacation homes. The global warming scientist and academics are the apparatchik.
Welcome to the U.S.S.R. comrade.
Al Gore will probably sponsor a book burning.
Don't let real science get in the way of a good hoax.
Because it would improve agricultural production and probably lead to more people. Which is in their view the ultimate evil.
I just found out that my son's science teacher showed Gore's movie to his class.
I'll be writing to the principal and I'd like to be able to request a showing of a video with an opposing viewpoint.
What do you think of Fred Singer, who was Avery's co-author for this book?
billyuns and billyuns and billyuns...........
You might enjoy this -
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2001/08/14/resources-biodiversity.pdf
"In 1914 the US Bureau of Mines estimated that there would be oil left over for only ten years’ consumption. In 1939 the US Department of the Interior projected that oil would last only 13 more years, and again in 1951 it was again projected that oil would run out 13 years later. As Professor Frank Notestein of Princeton said in his later years: “We’ve been running out of oil ever since I’ve been a boy.”
Worked with a few old oil engineers once. They were always told to say "we are going to run out of oil in 30 years". Because if they said "500" the price would bottom out and if they said "4" the price would spike to high.
Then they present these facts in a clear, understandable fashion... It's a great book !
I didn't click on the link - but , my wife gets some wildlife magazine. (I get to contribute to the NRA, she gets her wildlife donation!)
Most of it was on global warming - the editorial was saying how the dems being elected was the world's great hope to stop global warming. (My wife hates dems and dosn't believe in GW - she may not renew!).
Anyway, one article had a story on moose in northern Minnesota and how they are disappearing due to global warming because winter temperatures are 27 (yes - TWENTY SEVEN degrees farenheight higher than normal). I figure they left off a decimal, or are complete idiots. (No - they're STILL idiots!)
I asked my son if the moose are too warm done south what do you think they'll do? (Move north said my 12 year old). Granted, individuals may not move north, but the population as a whole will.
Another article in the magazine was going on and on about all the wonderful "rare" tropical birds that are now being seen in Texas and how great it was. Seems one of the causes they came up with may be global warming. (Ya think!?)
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