Schwarzenegger sides with redwood activists (Pacific Lumber)

San Mateo County Times ^ | 01/28/2007 | Mike Zapler

[TommyDale]

Hug a tree, kill a baby. The new GOP "moderates".

[calcowgirl]

In filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, Pacific Lumber blamed what it called overly strict state water regulations — rules separate from those contained in the redwoods agreement — for unfairly squeezing logging profits.

Yet the environmentalist's propaganda machine is at work trying to destroy whatever logging business remains in the state.

[ExtremeUnction]

Hug a tree, kill a baby. The new GOP "moderates".

I am a conservative but also a conservationist. We have cut down 95% of the old growth redwoods. The remaining giants are a national treasure. I say save them at all costs.

[claptrap]

If the forests arent thinned dont they just burn down
any way when the underbrush gets heavy?

[mugs99]

On Friday, the Schwarzenegger administration weighed in, declaring that the state will use every possible means to protect the redwoods.

The solution is simple. Arnie should buy the 200,000 acres from Pacific Lumber.
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[CounterCounterCulture]

Lumber is bad... we should use less natural, regrowable resources and use more material that is non-biodegradable. (rolls eyes)

[muleskinner]

The enviros ought to wait and see if Pacific lumber actually tries to log in the reserve first, but I guess their lawyers want something to do. Wankers.

[TommyDale]

I believe we should be in control of our environment, but a tree isn't more valuable than unborn children. Governor Schwarzenegger, Rudy Giuliani and others need to honor the rights of all life, not just the trees and whales.

Can you cite your source for that statistic of 95% of the old growth redwoods are now gone? The last time I was in Redwood Country, there was much more there than I would have expected, if I had believed the news media and Al Gore.

[countreegurl]

I am a conservative but also a conservationist. We have cut down 95% of the old growth redwoods. The remaining giants are a national treasure. I say save them at all costs.

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ditto,

NorCal Countreegurl

[patton]

Good for you - since the company is broke, I am sure they will sell you their land and trees.

Write them a check out of your personal account, and you have saved the world.

[Beagle8U]

"I am a conservative but also a conservationist. We have cut down 95% of the old growth redwoods. The remaining giants are a national treasure. I say save them at all costs."

If you are a conservative and want to "save them at all costs" you should BUY them.

If your "at all costs" means someone else's money you are a liberal, not a conservative.

[cricket]

Maria wins! Arnold soon to announce his Demrat Party affililiation. OTOH. ..perhaps not; because what does it matter? Maria wins either way.

[goldstategop]

I have no sympathy for the company. They signed this deal and they should figured out before they signed it that it might end up costing them more than holding onto the lands would bring in profit for them. Its no surprise they're being squeezed by the Left and the State Of California at the same time. Due to their own short-sightedness, they're getting what they deserve.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[jdub]

It would appear that they were bought, and the possibility exists that the lumber company might renege on the deal.

Some things must be left to the State. If I say "we must protect our borders at all costs", does this mean that I must build my own fence?

[BunnySlippers]

If these redwoods are as numerous and as endangered as this article says then perhaps they need to be saved.

Have any of you outside California seen how incredible the giant redwoods are?

I just think we need to know more before passing judgment. Anyone know he story?

[B Knotts]

We have cut down 95% of the old growth redwoods.

B.S.

All these hyperbolic claims about how few old-growth redwoods are left are based on the numbers of old-growth redwoods left on private property.

Huge amounts of old-growth redwoods are preserved in Redwood National Park. Of course there are few old-growth redwoods left in private hands, because the government has taken most of them.

People used to be able to earn a decent living in Humboldt County, but now all that's left are low-paying tourism jobs and high-paying government jobs.

[B Knotts]

Yes and no.

They basically signed the deal with a loaded gun to their heads.

[Beagle8U]

Pacific lumber still owns the property.

Unless you own the land and the timber growing on it you should have no say in the matter.

Your border fence comment is a straw man. You knock him down.

[Wally_Kalbacken]

This is an indication of what Arnold is willing to do to become the next Senator from CA. Kinda makes you think that California is not worth it, in any sense, if this is what he feels he must do.