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Two men shocked '12-year-old' not a minor; 29-year-old told them he was underage
The Oklahoman ^ | Sunday, January 21, 2007 | Ken Raymond (w/ AP contributing)

Posted on 01/21/2007 10:39:45 AM PST by WestTexasWend

A 29-year-old sex offender from Oklahoma duped two Arizona men into thinking he was a 12-year-old boy and lived with them for two years in a sexual relationship before the truth finally emerged Wednesday, officials said.

Neil Havens Rodreick II, who had been living under the alias of Casey Price, was arrested this week along with the men he’d fooled and a possible former cellmate, who is also an Oklahoma sex offender, officials said.

“This is extremely strange,” said Susan Quayle, spokeswoman for the Yavapai County sheriff’s office in Prescott, Ariz. “I can’t get over how bizarre this whole situation is.”

Wednesday, a man identifying himself as “Price’s” grandfather enrolled him in the Mingus Springs Charter School in Chino Valley, Ariz., about 90 miles northwest of Phoenix, Quayle said. Guardianship papers and a birth certificate appeared fake to school officials, so they contacted authorities.

Sheriff’s detectives determined the man posing as the grandfather was Lonnie Eugene Stiffler, 61, who had moved into a rented manufactured home in Chino Valley with “Price” and two other men in December, Quayle said. Investigators served a search warrant about 7 p.m. Wednesday.

Stiffler and Robert James Snow, 43, a known sex offender, admitted to investigators that they had picked “Price” up at an Oklahoma hotel about two years earlier after they’d begun an Internet relationship with him, said Det. Ross Diskin. They thought he was a pre-teen and had exchanged sexually explicit photographs with him.

The third man in the house, though, eventually told investigators a truth that shocked them almost as much as it did Stiffler and Snow.

Brian J. Nellis, 34, also an Oklahoma sex offender, said “Price” was actually Rodreick, his former cellmate, Diskin said.

Oklahoma Department of Corrections online records show that Rodreick was convicted of lewd and indecent proposal to a minor in Grady County in 1996. He was released from prison in January 2002. Nellis was convicted of lewd molestation in Kay County in 1997 and was imprisoned until July 2000.

The records also show Nellis pleaded guilty in July 2005 to one count of failure to comply with the Oklahoma sex offenders registry act. He was sentenced to two years in prison, with all but the first two months suspended.

“We couldn’t believe it,” Diskin said of Nellis’ revelation. “Both Snow and Stiffler ... were more shocked than we were. They were angry. They were more upset that he was a 29-year-old and not what they believed he was. Until that point they thought they were in a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old.”

By Thursday, all four men had been arrested. All made an initial appearance in Yavapai County Justice Court on Thursday, with all but Stiffler being held on $50,000 bond on a charge of failing to register as sex offenders. Stiffler was booked on two counts of forgery and one count of hindering prosecution; he was being held on $100,000 cash bond.

All four were assigned public defenders.

No child molestation charges were filed because, Diskin said, the men were actually having sex with an adult, no matter how old they thought he was.

“He doesn’t look very old,” Quayle said. “He’s a very small man. He wore makeup and shaved his entire body, from what I understand, and he had the clothing and the speech of a very, very young person.”

Detectives fear the men may have been using “Price” to help them find other victims, Quayle and Diskin said. Rodreick had successfully enrolled in other Arizona schools in the past.

“More than two,” Diskin said. “We’re still at the initial stages of this. There’s three schools that we have confirmed he attended, and we’re looking into the possibility that there were more than three. These were brief stays. Two of the schools, we know he was enrolled for a day. One of the schools was longer than that.”

Quayle said the men are known to have lived in or around the Arizona communities of Payson and El Mirage in the past.

Snow apparently has an account on MySpace, an Internet site popular with young people. The Oklahoman provided investigators with a link to the site, which contains biographical information on Snow over a background of flaming skulls. A video of “Welcome to the Black Parade” by My Chemical Romance plays constantly on the Web page.

On the site, Snow says he lives in Chino Valley, is gay and is looking for friends. He says he graduated from a California high school in 1982 and majored in cooking. Under the category of “children,” he wrote: “Love kids, but not for me.”

He last logged on Wednesday, the same day he was arrested.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bizarre; childpredators; cyberstalkers; homosexual; pedo; sexoffenders; strange; underagesex; wtf
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Pics of all four at the link...can someone please post?
1 posted on 01/21/2007 10:39:48 AM PST by WestTexasWend
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A 29-year-old sex offender from Oklahoma duped two Arizona men into thinking he was a 12-year-old boy

I've seen the picture of the guy. They really wanted to believe he was 12 because the guy couldn't pass for anything under 25.
2 posted on 01/21/2007 10:44:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: WestTexasWend

You have to be a subscriber to view the article.


3 posted on 01/21/2007 10:45:45 AM PST by YoungAmerican84 (Honorary member of the World Zionist Conspiracy)
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“Both Snow and Stiffler ... were more shocked than we were. They were angry. They were more upset that he was a 29-year-old and not what they believed he was. Until that point they thought they were in a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old.”

I'd be really mad. You know, there you are -- for two whole years -- convinced that you're a child molester, and then to find out that you're just shacking up with some 29-year-old guy! Boy! Where's the excitement in that??

4 posted on 01/21/2007 10:47:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: YoungAmerican84

Here is a link to an article that doesn't require you to log in. http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=82637


5 posted on 01/21/2007 10:51:24 AM PST by Historix
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To: WestTexasWend

Bizzare. Maybe they can lock all four of them in the same cell to save expenses.


6 posted on 01/21/2007 10:52:04 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Historix

He doesn't look like a 12-year old to me. More like 20 or 22.


7 posted on 01/21/2007 10:53:41 AM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Historix

Were they blind wannabe molesters? He looks 25-26 at the youngest!


8 posted on 01/21/2007 10:53:56 AM PST by retrokitten ("Beth, bear mace that guy!!")
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To: Cicero

And then inject the Zyclon-B.


9 posted on 01/21/2007 10:54:01 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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Image and video hosting by TinyPic Those guys must have needed glasses! No way this guy looks like a 12 y/o!
10 posted on 01/21/2007 10:55:42 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin? How the heck did he pull that one off ... WAIT, NO, don't want an answer and on multiple levels.
11 posted on 01/21/2007 10:56:59 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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12 posted on 01/21/2007 10:57:13 AM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Cicero

Too bad these clowns weren't in Maricopa county, otherwise they could indulge in their fantasies wearing Sheriff Joe's pink boxer shorts.


13 posted on 01/21/2007 10:59:19 AM PST by Historix
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"No child molestation charges were filed because, Diskin said, the men were actually having sex with an adult, no matter how old they thought he was.

But police routinely arrest men who communicate with someone who they believe to be a minor, even though it is actually a police officer. So why wouldn't the same law apply?


14 posted on 01/21/2007 10:59:38 AM PST by proxy_user
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15 posted on 01/21/2007 11:00:28 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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Diskin said, the men were actually having sex with an adult, no matter how old they thought he was.

They should still charge them for the crime. If they had propositioned a 29 year old LEO pretending to be a 12 year old boy online, they'd be in pedo trouble. The intent was pedo, they are pedos...Kill them!

16 posted on 01/21/2007 11:01:02 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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Ah, but homosexual degeneracy is merely an alternate lifestyle, no longer aberrant behavior, so mainstream now. Sexual degeneracy is to be accepted as personal choice to be protected and ignored, morally ... didn't you learn anything with the media defense and worship of the sexual degenerate clinton?


17 posted on 01/21/2007 11:01:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Jaysun

Ah, yes. The clear, steely-eyed gaze of the kid-caboodlers (even if he wasn't a kid). Nice guys. They probably started off their sexual careers doing knotholes in board fences, because it takes someone who is either blind or in a total fantasy world to believe that little weasel is twelve years old...


18 posted on 01/21/2007 11:04:28 AM PST by redhead (Alaskan bachelors: The odds are good the goods will be ODD...)
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To: Cicero

"Bizzare."

Bizarre, and just plain queer;)

Could have charged 'em all with sodomy, except the Supreme Court says you can't, because it's now a Constitutionally protected right/s


19 posted on 01/21/2007 11:04:57 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: King Moonracer

It is more likely that the entire ring (including the liar posing as a twlve year old) was hoping to get the deviant into school so he could 'bring home friends' for the householders' gratification. Degenerates are all about feeding thier degeneracy. I cannot believe the police don't see that!


20 posted on 01/21/2007 11:11:39 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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