Posted on 01/09/2007 3:03:21 PM PST by presidio9
If you think youre the only parent struggling to rear an unruly child destined to become a careless member of the society, think again. Almost one-third of parents believe their disciplining styles are ineffective.
In a survey of more than 2,000 parents of children between the ages of 2 and 11, researchers for the first time examined four common ways of disciplining kids time-outs, removal of privileges, yelling and spanking.
More than 45 percent of the parents reported using time-outs as a disciplinary action. Almost 42 percent removed their childs privileges, followed by 13 percent who resorted to yelling and 9 percent who opted to spank their children, the researchers report in the January issue of the journal Clinical Pediatrics.
Almost 31 percent of participants reported they believed their methods were not effective, and more than 38 percent were using the same discipline methods their own parents used on them as a child.
There was actually an inverse relationship between self-reports of yelling at children and perceived effectiveness of discipline, said lead study author Shari Barkin, a physician at the Monroe Carell Jr. Childrens Hospital at Vanderbilt. But we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported, because we know when parents perceive their methods are not working, as one-third reported, then emotions can quickly escalate, she said.
Barkin and colleagues think pediatricians should address discipline when parents bring their children to the doctors office for visits.
Discipline is a central element of what parents do every day, and its important to develop systems to support parents so that they can apply positive parenting to improve outcomes in children, Barkin told LiveScience.com.
In this study, we altered the manner in which we asked families about discipline," she explained. "This created a shared dialogue rather than a lecture."
And you need a course in manners. What's your point?
Thanks for the answer.
I was afraid of that. And I don't need to tell you, it totally promotes more of the same from the culprit and others.
thank you, the schools do not want educators anymore, just babysitters and I am a veteran of 20 years. I am resigning this year, I have given enough of my life to other peoples children and my children have suffered from their mom constantly working and trying to balance home and work. I know other people do this but when you have 90 14-15 year olds a day who have never been told no or have been taught manners it wears one down. I am also looking forward to not doing morning duty at 6:55 and having a 15 min. lunch hour and after school lets out, having meetings to 5 and then home to grade papers and plan lessons since my planning period is taken up by absent teachers who can't get a sub, let the younger generation do it. I AM BURNED OUT!
Thanks.
I'm wondering about this too. I guess you tell the student to go to the principal's office now and that you will be there immediately after class to meet with the student and principal to determine the appropriate punishment.
The question is, though, what do you do if the student refuses to exit the class? Call security? Laying hands on the student may result in an expensive lawsuit and unemployment.
Exactly. It helps if it's the father who does the disciplining and not always mom. Children are MUCH more apt to listen to dad than their mother, who is probably always telling them what to do and not to do. We get tuned out.
Parents need to be consistent and to follow through with their 'threats.' How many do? Probably not a whole lot of us.
Pick up the desk -- with them in it -- and throw it 10ft across the room. Then ask the rest of the class, "Anyone ELSE have any smart-aleck remarks they'd like to pop off with?"
NOTE: This technique only works if you teach in a private, Catholic school, AND you're a nun more than 45 years of age. Public school teachers utilizing this technique may achieve less-than-satisfactory results.
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My wife has the look. She can keep the kids in line without ever laying a hand on them.
My dad had "the look" that put the fear of GOD into us. Piercing blue eyes that shamed us like no spanking would ever accomplish.
Try having a preacher for a dad. Not only was I watched with an eagle eye by my parents, I was constantly watched by the whole congregation. I was afraid to be bad. My sister was the one that got into trouble. I learned from her mistakes.
My father was a teacher!! Fortunately, in a different school system but he knew all MY teachers!
And I thought ours was the only house to use that reason at the dinner table!
The "time out" begs this question:
If your kid couldn't control himself "by nature" out in public (or anywhere, FTM), why is he only to control himself (be quiet, not move, etc) DURING the time out?
It's kind of ironic, making a kid control himself in 1 space for NOT controlling himself while mobile.
This article implies otherwise, BTW. Most people were doing this kind of bargaining/bribing, and "most people" were dissatisfied with results. Perhaps you were just lucky to have naturally amiable, calm kids.
To repeat from another:
This article implies otherwise. Most people were doing this kind of bargaining/bribing, and "most people" were dissatisfied with results. Perhaps you were just lucky to have naturally amiable, calm kids.
My point was the spellchecker is a service available to all FReepers when posting, so why not take advantage when there is a need? It's free.
Where's the pix of prune-face Hillary?
I had to sit in the front row of the church because my mother sang in the choir. Never got a chance to get into trouble. I was given the bulletin and a pencil to keep me still.
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