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Egg-toss prank turns deadly in Ohio
Comcast News via AP ^ | 19 December 2006 | Andrew Welsh-Huggins

Posted on 12/19/2006 10:28:56 AM PST by Moose4

COLUMBUS, Ohio - It was the sort of commonplace misbehavior that raises blood pressure across the nation's roads: kids, out after midnight, egging cars along a busy thoroughfare.

This time, though, the mischief turned deadly. The driver of a targeted gray Jeep barreled after the boys and someone inside pulled a gun, firing multiple shots that killed 14-year-old Danny Crawford.

Police are still seeking the gunman more than two weeks after Crawford's death. They have interviewed the Jeep's owner but aren't saying if that person is a suspect.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: crime; egg; eggs; mischief
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To: PAR35
Or charge the other egg throwers with felony murder.

In order to charge somebody with felony murder, there has to be an felony. Tossing an egg at a car is obnoxious, but it is not a felony.

81 posted on 12/19/2006 11:58:00 AM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: Redcitizen; gridlock
Don't egg gridlock on.

Is that supposed to be some sort of yolk?

82 posted on 12/19/2006 12:00:26 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Centurion2000

"Two words: Lexington & Concord."

I think that was a few years ago. Society might have changed a smidge since then.


83 posted on 12/19/2006 12:02:34 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: lowbridge
Were you the egger or the eggee? :-)

Actually, it was acorns. A bunch of older kids were out in front of the school one day, throwing acorns at the passing cars. They kept missing them behind, because the cars were moving about 60 mph.

I thought this was my chance to be really cool, so I explained how they had to lead the car, and showed them how they could throw the acorn up to the same height on the side of the road in order to judge when they would have to throw it to actually hit a car.

After a couple of test throws along the side in order to get the timing down, I tossed one for real at the next car, and caught it perfect, sqare on the windshield.

I don't know if the older kids were impressed or not, because they got out of there a lot quicker than me. I got hauled into the Pricipal's office, and it was not good for me at all.

Come to think of it, it might have been a set-up from the git-go...

84 posted on 12/19/2006 12:05:10 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: gridlock
Tossing an egg at a car is obnoxious, but it is not a felony.

It would depend on the jurisdiction, but an aggressive prosecutor should be able to come up with a charge. Someone posted upthread about post 47 a felony that would probably work in Virginia. You could probably find a predicate felony that would work in Ohio.

85 posted on 12/19/2006 12:12:58 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Dead Corpse
My sister got egged

She's lucky she didn't get bitten by a møøse.

86 posted on 12/19/2006 12:17:26 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: PAR35

Chances are a prosecutor wouldn't waste time on a felony charge for something like this, unless it caused an accident--which it could, of course, quite easily do.

If nothing else, maybe this can be a cautionary tale for those prospective egg-throwers out there. But then again, maybe not--14-year-olds are indestructible, just ask them.

}:-)4


87 posted on 12/19/2006 12:21:33 PM PST by Moose4 (Go hard or go home, but don't go half-ass.)
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To: gridlock

My own speculation is that the driver was drug-related. A runner or dealer of some magnitude.


88 posted on 12/19/2006 12:28:30 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: brownsfan

Lunatic fringe here.


89 posted on 12/19/2006 12:44:09 PM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: PAR35
Someone posted upthread about post 47 a felony that would probably work in Virginia.

The Virginia code referenced in Post 47 was 18.2-154:

Any person who maliciously shoots at, or maliciously throws any missile at or against, any train or cars on any railroad or other transportation company or any vessel or other watercraft, or any motor vehicle or other vehicles when occupied by one or more persons, whereby the life of any person on such train, car, vessel, or other watercraft, or in such motor vehicle or other vehicle, may be put in peril, is guilty of a Class 4 felony. In the event of the death of any such person, resulting from such malicious shooting or throwing, the person so offending is guilty of murder in the second degree. However, if the homicide is willful, deliberate and premeditated, he is guilty of murder in the first degree. (emphasis mine)

So, in order for this to be a felony, the "missile" would have to put the life of the occupant of the vehicle in peril. An egg is not going to put anybody's life in peril, so it would not qualify. You can't kill somebody inside a moving vehicle with an egg.

Therefore there is no underlying felony, and no way this could be felony murder.

90 posted on 12/19/2006 12:48:44 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: K4Harty
Oscar Mayer bologna strips paint to the metal, way worse than egg or bird poop.

But it's much harder to hit a moving car with Oscar Mayer Bologna...

91 posted on 12/19/2006 12:51:54 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Moose4

This is why I tell kids in the neighborhood that act delinquent they ought to be weary of the person that will react this way. Anger the wrong person and you may end up dead - so you better watch out how much you screw around with peoples' property lest you end up dealing with the law of consequences.

I can't tell you how many parents I've talked to that when told this reasonably, they agree and start straightening out their children. You just never know who that person will be that goes off the deep end and kills you for some perceived slight, let alone a known one.

Bottom line, killing the kid was wrong, but the kid put himself in a bad situation and paid dearly for his choice!


92 posted on 12/19/2006 1:20:44 PM PST by jurroppi1 ("You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think." - Milton Berle)
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To: Weep-o-crat Hunter

Is that Harding College?


93 posted on 12/19/2006 1:23:34 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
,i>But it's much harder to hit a moving car with Oscar Mayer Bologna...,/i>

No, you just don't lead them as much...

94 posted on 12/19/2006 1:27:47 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (doot...doot...video killed the radio star...doot...doot...)
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To: brownsfan
And in the face of logic you revert to juvenille personal attacks. Way to go genius.

My misspellings are planned and if you consider that initial string of words logic, then I can see how you'd think that my response was juvenille.

95 posted on 12/19/2006 1:34:50 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: K4Harty
"Oscar Mayer bologna strips paint to the metal..."

Mama mia! Glad I don't eat that stuff.

96 posted on 12/19/2006 1:53:15 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Wolfie
"It's no yolking matter."

Don't fire till you see the whites of their eggs!

97 posted on 12/19/2006 1:55:54 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Weep-o-crat Hunter
Calling my Mentor an Idiot is same as calling Me one - didnt you Know???

Your grammar isn't good enough for you to go around making rules.

So no, we do not Know that.
98 posted on 12/19/2006 1:59:17 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: brownsfan
"Two words: Lexington & Concord."

I think that was a few years ago. Society might have changed a smidge since then.

There are 70 million gun owners in this country. If only 1 in 100 fight that's well over half a million people.

Society hasn't changed as much as you think.

99 posted on 12/19/2006 2:03:05 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Gov't: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it)
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To: gridlock
An egg is not going to put anybody's life in peril, so it would not qualify. You can't kill somebody inside a moving vehicle with an egg.

Yes you can. In some ways an egg is worse then a small rock because it breaks and smears when it hits your windshield blinding the driver.

If you blind a driver you have indeed put him in peril.

There are some times when this is done deliberately in order to cause a crash in order to rob the occupants of the vehicle.

100 posted on 12/19/2006 2:09:03 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (We must have faith For when it is all said and done, Faith manages. And the impossible is achieved)
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