Posted on 12/18/2006 10:58:24 AM PST by kronos77
New York, 18 Dec. (AKI) - Serbs living in the United States are reported to be deeply disturbed and worried by recent arrests of fellow Serbs in connection with the 1990s Balkan wars, community leaders have said. In a six-state swoop, American agents arrested 13 Serb immigrants last week and are looking for another three who are still at large. One of those arrested, Nedjo Ikonic, is being investigated for allegedly having taken part in the massacre of up to 8,000 Muslim men and boys in the eastern Bosnian town of Srebrenica when it was overrun by Serb forces in July 1995.
If convicted, Ikonic and other suspects face up to ten years in jail and deportation from the US. "These cases demonstrate our resolve to identify and prosecute those who enter the US under false pretences," said deputy attorney general Paul McNulty. "Especially those who hide their military past," he added.
Those arrested were poor immigrants who had no money for lawyers of bail to defend themselves from freedom, the Serbian consul in Chicago, Desko Nikitovic, told Vesti daily. He said Serbia could not help them because most were Bosnian citizens.
"Unfortunately, this is a huge operation in which only Bosnia-Herzegovina can intervene with Washington. No-one needs to spoil the relations between our two countries, which have been improving," said Nikitovic.
Milwaukee lawyer, Nikola Kostic, said he was trying to organise a team to offer legal help to the arrested and their families, because neither Serbia nor Serb organisations in America have shown much interest in helping the suspects.
"Serbs are being hunted throughout America, but no one is checking Bosnian Muslims and Croats who have immigrated to the United States in the past 10-15 years," Zika Petrovic of Denver, Colorado, told Vesti. "No one asks them whether they have concealed what they did in the wars, what army they served and whether they committed crimes against Serbs," Petrovic said. "All this is creating an unfortunate impression that the war against Bosnian Serbs has now shifted to US soil," he concluded.
Vesti, distributed throughout Serbian emigre community - which numbers a million in the US - said that there is a list of over 300 people, submitted to the United States by Bosnian authorities and the United Nations' Yugoslav war crimes tribunal, who are suspected of having committed crimes during the 1992-1995 Bosnian civil war.
Officially, the suspects are being charged for failing to report to immigration authorities that they served in the Bosnian Serb army, which fought against local Muslims. (Vpr/Aki)
Dec-18-06 15:00
Yeah. Either prayer rugs, or the special clothes they will make dhimmis wear!!!!
And one of Bushes worst was prosocuting Serbs for killing mislims he should have given them medals.
The highest reliable number I've seen is ~102,000. It includes everyone, from all three sides; civilian and military casualties.
You know, a$$hole, I am sick of your equating the Serbs with the Nazi scum. I find your insinuations disgusting and way out of line. At first I thought you were misinformed and then that you're slightly retarded. Now I am pretty sure you're a malicious, hateful cretin. Rest assured, the Admin will be notified.
You'll make an excellent Dhimmi.
The Nazi’s wanted to create "Lebensraum" (Living space) for the uebermenschen. The Serbs wanted to push people out of their home and property for the exact same motive. The Nazi’s operated camps and in a deliberate and systematic fashion, state sponsored, exterminated people they deemed lesser. Serbia in a deliberate and systematic fashion, state sponsored and condoned, fully knowledgeable of its actions did the same thing. From the top down, Serbia like Nazi Germany was in violation of some of the most basic and fundamental concepts of what international law has been about for 400 years, long before any court in the Hague even existed!
The comparisons of Serbia to Nazi Germany are 100% spot on, although no doubt Germany was far worse in magnitude. Maybe that’s why it hurts so badly and you have no argument other than personal attacks.
Which is why the Dhimmis bravely trash the Serbs here on Free Republic. What marvels of intestinal fortitude you are!
Completely untrue! Serbia remains the most multi-ethnic nation in the Balkans. The Serbs were fighting against being pushed out of their own homes, as any non-Dhimmi would have done.
["you now want to redefine what this somehow means."]
Nope, I'm not redefining anything. Like I said in my previous post, my (earlier) comment went over your head.
Now, why don't you answer my question: Can you explain to me why Carla del Ponte is appealing the TWO year sentence given to Oric by the international court? Remember, the prosecution asked that Oric get eighteen years.
After the break up of YU, the Serbs had the tanks. They had the MIGs. They had the artillery, the air defense, the officers.......
They were the aggressors; they didn't stop even after they were warned repeatedly because they were creating an international humanitarian disaster with their actions. Truth is, what finally got the Europeans to push for NATO involvement was no higher moral cause, but rather a refugee crisis and conflict which showed signs of spreading into other areas.
Today, some, in order to feel better about themselves, or blinded by pure super nationalistic fervor (Another similarity with the Nazi) want to rewrite history in a way that is more palatable to them. It was the Serbs that were calling the shots. Saying the Serbs are the victims is like saying Germany was attacked by Poland in WWII (Another similarity "The false rationalization”) and that the Germans were the victims.
You’re attempting to turn the world on its head. It won’t work. Too many people saw first hand what happened. The Germans, Italians, Brits, no one is arguing with you today since this issue is largely surpassed by more pressing stories, but within the political establishment, ALL know who the culprit was. I was in Germany at the time of the conflict in the Balkans with the DoD. I personally can remember the refugee camps the Germans set up to deal with the chaos created by the “Serbs”. Today you deny it happened and even want to portray Serbia as the victim. Sorry, won’t happen.
No matter how many fake NATO websites you create that spew Serb propaganda, from the court in the Hague, to the international political establishment, you have branded yourselves with something on par with the Nazi. Your denial of what happened does not help you. It makes you look only worse. Abu Gharib happened. Even Rumsfeld whom I admire admits to what happened there. In interviews he will openly say that this was probably one of the low points in his career, and he had in reality nothing to do with it! I served in Iraq and support the mission there 100%. But I will not deny that at Abu Gharib Iraqi’s were abused. If you as a people want to get any respect, then you must take responsibility for the mess you made, not deny it. Denying it only makes you look like the Nazi war criminal who also denied it after the war. It’s like Clinton who said “I didn’t inhale” or “I did not have sex with that woman”. After the DNA on that dress, several witnesses, etc, no matter what he says, the facts speak for themselves. Likewise, the events surrounding the Balkan intervention are well documented.
You had UN observers, EU representatives, NATO soldiers from various countries…….etc. Were they all conspiring and collaborating to come up with a fake story? Investigations by the international tribunal, sworn testimony, the international media…… And all you do is deny deny deny and make counter accusations. Kind of like the Holocaust denier, but as we know, you guys don’t like any correlation to the Nazi’s or WWII.
An example: Some time ago I debated with what I am fairly sure was a Serb. He tried telling me about all the US planes that were allegedly shot down during the conflict and how we didn’t score the kills we did. I asked him, “what about the tail numbers which we record on our planes? The HUD tapes? AWACS which is watching and has an international crew?........etc” He just kept denying and denying that we had shot down the MIG29s we did. He was quoting huge losses on our side, which he could not back with any “credible” source. He made an ass of himself.
Likewise, many of the atrocities committed are at this point a matter of fact. At this point, you have 48 senior Serb figures (political and military) who have served time for crimes you say never happened. But we all know, the prisons are full of innocent people; just ask any one of them.
You're embarassing yourself all over this thread. It would probably be best for yourself, and everyone else, if you just stayed away from the BALKANS threads. Your time would be better spent doing some research instead of this display of crapping in public you're performing here. Reading your posts on this subject is like listening to a little kid with a first grade education give a lecture on Italian Neo-Realism cinema after a life filled with eating lead paint chips.
["You're embarassing yourself (Red6) all over this thread."]
Well said.
Lots of facts, great post!
I think you mean the Serbs are misrepresented as genocidal maniacs, which is really what islamic facists are. All peaceful, civilized cultures have suffered enough by the hands of islamic fascists (some more than others). I was merely making a point that history has shown that extreme measures are needed to deal with nationally organized genocidal psycopathic cultures. Historically retarded revisionist fools refer to the events at Dresden and Hiroshima as "war crimes", but they were absolutely necessary in order to suppress the evil of the axis powers in WWII. Islamic facism is actually worse, in some regards, and must be stopped from gaining any form of viable N.B.C. weapons capability.
Another example: http://www.un.org/icty/glance/hadzihasanovic.htm (I’ll make your case for you)
So obviously in this case, the French, Dutch, and Madagascaran, judges were bought right? They were part of a plot against the Serbs?
You guys are getting old. All you do is deny and make counter accusations, create arguments that are full of conspiracies (We already learned from one of you "experts" that the Balkan crisis was all about the oil! lol) logical fallacies and personal attacks. But no substance, none what so ever.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2412270.php
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/16202189.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/08/AR2006120801725.html
I give up. You win.
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