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1 posted on 12/17/2006 2:04:22 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Well, truth be told, ALL countries are spying on us. You know which country spies on us the most?

Israel. Not that I blame them!

We spy on "friends" as well. That's the nature of the game.

2 posted on 12/17/2006 2:06:31 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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ARTICLE SNIPPET:

"And, finally, Americans have just put the power of Congress into the hands of a group of people who would much rather “talk” to our enemies than kill them. Our enemies have no such qualms. As easily as they would kill Alexander Litvinenko, we can look forward to more efforts to encourage America to self-destruct. The ancient Chinese military strategist, Sun Tzu, long ago wrote that the greatest skill in war is to defeat of one’s enemy without firing a shot."

3 posted on 12/17/2006 2:07:29 PM PST by Cindy
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BFD, neither has Israel.


4 posted on 12/17/2006 2:07:40 PM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does the sun still rise in the east, too?


5 posted on 12/17/2006 2:11:52 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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The cold war only ended in someone's imagination. Russia is still capable of, and eager to, inflict Marxism on the World. Right now, they are winning, big time!


7 posted on 12/17/2006 2:15:31 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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Who ever thought that they'd stopped? Even our ALLIES spy on us, for goodness sake!


8 posted on 12/17/2006 2:17:26 PM PST by SuziQ
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Yes Russia spies on the U.S. and the U.S. spies on Russia,

The UK spies on the U.S. and the U.S. spies on the UK.

Israel spies on the U.S. and the U.S. spies on Israel.


10 posted on 12/17/2006 2:19:09 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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In other news, Russia is still run by nasty people.


12 posted on 12/17/2006 2:21:15 PM PST by ozzymandus
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The Russians Have Never Stopped Spying on Us

I think bears still crap in the woods too, last I heard...
16 posted on 12/17/2006 2:35:48 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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And this just in from other news; the Pope is reported to be Catholic. Duh!


17 posted on 12/17/2006 2:37:59 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier back in the "SandBox")
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I read something a few years back, about Russian special forces actually having a training area in the southwestern part of the country. One of those "lets all just get along" ideas. haven't heard much about it since then. Anyone else ever read about that?


21 posted on 12/17/2006 2:44:08 PM PST by freemike
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Conversely, is anyone here naive enough to think we ever stopped spying on the Russians?


24 posted on 12/17/2006 2:51:31 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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Russia actually spies on the US more than it did during the Cold War. They also spy through Kazakhstan's and Belarus's spy agencies.


26 posted on 12/17/2006 3:34:45 PM PST by Thunder90
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Does anyone really think we know, or will ever know, what other countries know about us, or what we know about other countries? Does anyone think Congress, or the Senate, or Parliament knows, or that they are ever told the whole truth?

If secrets are to be kept, it is innevitable that we won't "know".

Even things we think we know may be illusions created as disinformation.

Why do you think we only hear about intelligence failures? Could be we only fail all the time, could be the creation of an image of ineffectiveness is part of the illusion.

I think that the UK and the US know an awful lot. We have the money and the technlogy.

Does anyone really think we don't know what the Kremlin, or China, or Iran thinks? Or where Saddams WMD went? Of course we know. We don't say because that would just be showing off.

Even analysts within the security services don't "know". Ever wondered why so many analysts go public saying their analysis was ignored? Was it that someone else knew something else? Is the analysts public statement disinformation? Does anyone think all analysts are given all the information?


29 posted on 12/17/2006 3:50:44 PM PST by plenipotentiary
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Really? But, but they are our friends now! (sarcasm)
Only an imbecile would have believed the Russians were no longer the true enemies of humanity. They are evil, and will always be evil.
30 posted on 12/17/2006 3:54:54 PM PST by gedeon3
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