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President Asked to Rescind Appointment of Dennis Prager (CAIR)
U.S. Newswire ^

Posted on 12/06/2006 1:58:45 PM PST by Sub-Driver

President Asked to Rescind Appointment of Dennis Prager

Holocaust Museum Council Member Said Quran Oath 'Undermines American Civilization'

12/6/2006 3:39:00 PM

To: City Desk

Contact: Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, 202-488-8787, or 202-744-7726, or ihooper@cair.com

WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Council on American- Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called on President Bush to rescind the appointment of radio talk show host Dennis Prager to the United States Holocaust Memorial Council because of his intolerant views toward Islam in American society.

Earlier this week, CAIR urged the taxpayer-supported museum's council to remove Prager because of a recent syndicated column in which he wrote that Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, should be prevented from taking his oath of office using the Quran.

In his commentary, Prager wrote that swearing an oath on the Quran "undermines American civilization." "Insofar as a member of Congress taking an oath to serve America and uphold its values is concerned, America is interested in only one book, the Bible," wrote Prager. "If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress."

Prager also wrote that Ellison's swearing on a Quran would "be doing more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11."

On Tuesday, the Holocaust Museum distanced itself from Prager's views, but indicated that it did not have the power to remove him from the council. The museum's statement said: "Talk show host Dennis Prager speaks solely for himself. His statements do not reflect the position of the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, whose board is not self-appointed."

A number of groups and commentators have rejected Prager's views. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) called his comments "intolerant, misinformed and downright un-American."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; cair; dennisprager; intolerantmuslims
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To: digger48
Prager is a perfect choice for the Holocaust Memorial board and the bigots at CAIR shouldn't be allowed to get him.

This is, however, one of the few times I've ever disagreed with him. Prager misunderstands the nature of an oath and the history of the use of the Bible in official ceremonies.

The theory of an oath is that if the swearer fails to do what he swears (such as to "tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth") he will endanger his soul. So, presumably, the odds go up he will do so. It is not a symbolic act of state, as Prager suggests, but it is an act bound up in the swearer's religion, as he denies. If I were to swear an oath on the Koran, it would be meaningless, as I am a Christian. Same thing if Ellison were to swear an oath on a Bible.

I have seen thousands of oaths administered, and very few are taken on a Bible or have a Bible present.

Congress follows the pattern. The swearing-in ceremony is a mass ceremony where the oath is taken with raised hand. No Bible is used. Some Members choose to carry one, but others don't.

George Washington took the Presidential oath of office on a Bible, kissed it, and added "so help me God" to the oath, which tradition subsequent Presidents have mainly followed. This is what Prager is thinking of, but it is highly unusual for other oaths of office and oaths taken in court.

Prager argues a Bible should be "present" when taking the Congressional oath because that symbolizes the Judeo-Christian roots of our Republic and the belief of the Framers that our rights derive from God and not man. But that's just wrong - the locus of that belief is in the Declaration of Independence, which is very clear on the subject. The presence or absence of a Bible at an oath of office is just irrelevant to the subject of the origins of the Founding.

Prager just got this one wrong. I wish he'd follow the First Rule of Holes.

21 posted on 12/06/2006 2:23:14 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Sub-Driver; 2Jedismom

CAIR can blow it out their shorts! What do they care who sits on the Holocaust Council? Half of the folks involved with CAIR either support Hitler's ideas for his 'Jewish problem', or they don't believe the Holocaust ever happened.


22 posted on 12/06/2006 2:24:19 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Condor51

Man, it's just an all out assault on this country this week, isn't it?


23 posted on 12/06/2006 2:26:26 PM PST by Howlin (44 days to Destin!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Doubling your pleasure, Dave. LOL!
How did I manage to post twice?

- Dork -


24 posted on 12/06/2006 2:26:51 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Sub-Driver

Prager's right.


25 posted on 12/06/2006 2:29:32 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Sub-Driver

CAIR is a terrorist organization.


26 posted on 12/06/2006 2:30:05 PM PST by Radix (Don't mind me, I post dumb stuff all of the time.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is what I wish was Dennis' reply...

Hey, dirka-dirka... GO POUND SAND!

Regards,
Dennis

27 posted on 12/06/2006 2:33:46 PM PST by rock_lobsta (Offending liberals since 1993)
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To: Right Cal Gal

"And besides, what does CAIR have to do with the Holocaust Memorial anyway, except to wish Hitler had completed his maniacal task?"

I was going to say that, or something like that, but you said it better than me.

Though I would add a few exclamation points. Here - you can borrow these - !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it interesting - no, sergeantdave, it's apparent - that the media would be carrying the jihad flag for these throat-slitting goat herders.


28 posted on 12/06/2006 2:35:39 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: colorado tanker

That was the essence of Medved's disagreement with DP, to
which I also hold.


29 posted on 12/06/2006 2:37:45 PM PST by rahbert
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To: Jo Nuvark; Baynative
I agree with Prager's second recommendation. Ellison should carry both books of worship.

Do you know how this process works?

The entire incoming House members take the oath at the same time from their respective assigned seats. They are allowed to carry the Bible version of their choice or no book at all.

Did you know Republican Senator Gordon Smith from Oregon carried the Book of Mormon and the Bible when he took his oath?

I do believe CAIR should go to he!!.
30 posted on 12/06/2006 2:41:25 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: RockinRight

I agree completely. Whatever CAIR objects to is good for me. Same with the Dims.

Dennis wrote a very good article and I completely agree with his comments. Good Luck Dennis. You will need it.


31 posted on 12/06/2006 2:43:40 PM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel and Freerepublic Rocks!)
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To: Sub-Driver
CAIR more worried about attacking Prager than condemning their fellow muslims: Somalia Town Threatens to Behead People (must pray 5 times).

CAIR, Go b#tch in Somalia.

32 posted on 12/06/2006 2:44:10 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: bigfootbob
Did you know Republican Senator Gordon Smith from Oregon carried the Book of Mormon and the Bible when he took his oath?

Naturally, Mormons regard both books as holy scripture.

The entire incoming House members take the oath at the same time from their respective assigned seats. They are allowed to carry the Bible version of their choice or no book at all.

Agreed. That's why Prager's point makes no sense. The Bible is not part of this ceremony, unless a Member chooses to carry one. And the Member is free to carry any other sacred text, such as the Book of Mormon, or none at all.

I do believe CAIR should go to he!!.

Amen, brother!

33 posted on 12/06/2006 2:46:20 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Sub-Driver

I'm sure CAIR is concerned about who's on the board of the Holocaust Museum. That, in itself, is a big laugh.


34 posted on 12/06/2006 2:47:48 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Sub-Driver

What is the connection between Muslims and the Holocaust? What is their point? It is a non sequitor!


35 posted on 12/06/2006 2:49:36 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: rahbert
Unfortunately, we don't get Medved here anymore. He's one bright dude. I used to love listening to him toy with his liberal guests, like a cat who's caught a mouse and has decided to play instead of eat.
36 posted on 12/06/2006 2:49:57 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Joe Boucher

Think of Islam as sort of a "bad boys" club for men. Sort of a "Fight Club" without the fight.


37 posted on 12/06/2006 2:51:13 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Condor51

How can a people who's parents watched folks being taken away daily and what happened after... ever hate themselves so and rally for CAIR?

Even as they see their homeland in danger of extinction...

They should know better than anyone... 1938 all over again.

This is what changes the minds of some who want only the best for Israel... they say "If they don't value their homeland and lives... why should we"?


38 posted on 12/06/2006 2:57:31 PM PST by AliVeritas (Even if a mother forgets the child of her womb, I will not forget you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dennis Praeger is a very sincere and thoughtful man, and anyone who listens to his show knows that.


39 posted on 12/06/2006 3:02:59 PM PST by Williams
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder if this is how the Romans felt as they saw things crumbling around them.


40 posted on 12/06/2006 3:06:42 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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