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LIVE THREAD; Iraq Study Group Releases Report
December 6, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 8:02:58 AM PST by Howlin

Live on cable now...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1938; bakerreport; chickenlittlemagnet; iraq; iraqsurrendergroup; neville; sellout
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To: Frank Sheed

bttt


741 posted on 12/06/2006 1:16:27 PM PST by petercooper (Polls Schmolls.)
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To: petercooper


742 posted on 12/06/2006 1:17:00 PM PST by petercooper
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To: Earthdweller

Perhaps some of you are more in the know and will be able to correct me. But just how is it that we are fighting to win this war. It seems we are more worried about collateral damage within Iraq and lack the will to go after those who are supplying the insurgents in Iraq, that being Iran and Syria.

Perhaps it is not too early to ask Bush to either resign or fight the war to win.


743 posted on 12/06/2006 1:21:12 PM PST by SoothsayerToo
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To: bnelson44

Thank God for people like you and your son. You have brightened my day.


744 posted on 12/06/2006 1:23:02 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: bnelson44
The ISG’s findings are consistent with the goals and policies of the Administration, with the exception of the recommendation to draw Iran and Syria into an international conference.

I think you are basically right. In other words, it could have been much worse. It certainly does not support any cut and run 6 month plan. Frankly, I do think it does take the wind out of the sails of the Murtha types. Yet, the tone of it is not particularly helpful with little (if any) mention of winning, success, victory etc. It is just another thing that could be used by the enemy to encourage their "troops" and demoralize ours. I guess it is up to the President now to make sure that we find a way to win and not surrender. Our troops deserve no less.

745 posted on 12/06/2006 1:25:28 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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To: RegulatorCountry
"You might be speaking a little prematurely, seeing as how the Democrat majority has yet to be sworn in."

OK..let's break this down..

"Russert says the Committee is bold and commanding, that the Presidency is over, the WOT is over, the Committee is saving the ME from anarchy, the Dems will run the country now."

"...the Committee is bold and commanding.."
Tehehehe :-)

"...that the Presidency is over...."
hahahehe :^)

"...the Committee is saving the ME from anarchy" hahahahehehe :>)

"...the Dems will run the country now........." LOBO!!! ;)

"Russert says.................................." Bawahahahahahahahahahahahahah!! <(:-)!!!

OK, that about covers it.

746 posted on 12/06/2006 1:26:40 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee; bnelson44
Thank God for people like you and your son. You have brightened my day.

Amen to that.

747 posted on 12/06/2006 1:27:31 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate
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To: armymarinemom
"If you have someone serving in Iraq just let me know what you think."

Nephew. College educated. Green Zone.

We are not going anywhere until the job is done.

Give it to them straight for us tonight.

748 posted on 12/06/2006 1:34:16 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: My2Cents

In many cases, the Libs are the ones with the Tinfoil turbans, and limp wrists, along with sporting "Bush Lied" bumper stickers on their Yugo's and Hybrid vehicles.


749 posted on 12/06/2006 1:36:07 PM PST by traditional1
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To: SoothsayerToo
"Perhaps some of you are more in the know and will be able to correct me."

That's the sorriest bait line I have ever seen.

750 posted on 12/06/2006 1:39:05 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: popdonnelly

They dragged this out as long as they could. Nice paychecks, nice perks, no pressure, no expectations that they would actually accomplish anything other than blather for their media buddies.


751 posted on 12/06/2006 1:42:25 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: Earthdweller

Russert sharing the same mind altering drugs that the commission ingested.


752 posted on 12/06/2006 1:43:06 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: SoothsayerToo

One point: Iraq is not a military disaster, but our involvement there has been a PR disaster. While the left has been trumpeting "Bush Lied! People Died!" for 3 and a half years, the White House has never really put together an effective communications strategy for making sure that we do not lose the War on Terror through a loss of will at home. While his Iraq policy has been blasted on every media organ in the country, the White House's response has been tepid to nonexistent. We won the "war," it's the peace that isn't being secured fast enough, and winning the peace has really been on the shoulders of the Iraqis and their popularly elected government. But the Administration has been uninspired and uninspiring in terms of framing the "winning the peace" effort; either that, or the American people have become tone-deaf, and just want to get back to "American Idol."


753 posted on 12/06/2006 1:45:38 PM PST by My2Cents (Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
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To: Mo1
But alot of people are going to die before the nitwits wake up and see what's really going on

If only the victims were the nitwits...That would be poetic justice.

754 posted on 12/06/2006 1:48:21 PM PST by My2Cents (Scrape the Bottom. Vote for Rodham.)
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To: Zack Nguyen
First: getting more out of the Iraqi police and military (with embedded SF advisers - DOL) would free US forces in place to hit the borders - we should be patrolling them by air now and basically shooting at what moves.

Second: whether they admit it in public or not, both Iran and Syria know for a fact that we CAN nuke them and we CAN turn them to slag without needing nukes. Diplomacy isn't just for appeasement any more (or shouldn't be).

Third: announce very clearly that Palestine and the WOT are not linked in US eyes. That we will deal with all terrorists forcefully and regardless of their stated intent. That Israel / palestine / Lebanon are issues that will not be manipulated to justify any overlap. I believe that the power elites in the area, as well as Baker, know this and use 'the Palestinian issue' as a means to their own ends. The morons on the street might be another matter because I hear 'palestine' from otherwise rational immigrants daily.

Finally, it is absolutely imperative that Iraq enjoys some level of success that does not involve voting for terrorism rather than having it imposed from the top.

Regardless of how 'bad' some of us might believe Iraq to be today (& I think it's improved) someone IS fighting against the islamists, on or near their own soil, and entirely unlike what went before 9/11. They can posture and plot, and they can make hits outside the ME; but they are not free today to do it without losses. Arafat is dead and his heirs are fighting each other. Iran just might be showing signs of a coup or some pull back from Nutjob's ranting. Syria has shown its hand in Lebanon, for better or for worse?

Further afield, Castro is dead or in transit, Chavez knows his big ticket AKs and MIGs would be good for two or three hours. This is not the time to either go ballistic (literally) or to back off and out - and that might be precisely why the Dems are on a rant to do one or the other.

Footnote: partition of Iraq is not an option. The Kurds have been screwed once already and without federation they'd be Turkish toast very shortly.

755 posted on 12/06/2006 1:55:21 PM PST by norton
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To: Howlin

Unfortunately, they'll be screeching it longer than that. FWI - I was talking about this today to a guy who only watches MSM and is a liberal (but pro American and Jewish) -he knew exactly what James Baker is. I was amazed. He doesn't know a lot about politics, but he knew Baker would screw Israel.


756 posted on 12/06/2006 1:59:38 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Jewels1091

Just like the 911 Commission. They are setting policy - for the Dems.


757 posted on 12/06/2006 2:02:09 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Dog
"I'm very worried for my country.. to the point of despair....we deserve everything our enemies are going to throw at us." Dittos.

I cannot remember a time when there was such a total vacuum of leadership in the entire Western world!
758 posted on 12/06/2006 2:04:36 PM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans Unite!!!!! Draft Fred Thompson in 08')
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To: NinoFan

Out of disrespect, I call her Sandi. Make sure there's an "i," like in a ditsy stripper.


759 posted on 12/06/2006 2:07:06 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

They both did glamour poses for Men's Vogue. I'm not kidding.


760 posted on 12/06/2006 2:09:39 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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