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Navy rejects San Francisco for warship commissioning ceremony
North County Times/The Californian ^
| Saturday, December 2, 2006
| Associated Press
Posted on 12/04/2006 12:23:51 PM PST by DogByte6RER
Navy rejects San Francisco for warship commissioning ceremony
By: Associated Press
SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. Navy has rejected plans to commission its newest and most powerful warship in San Francisco because of concerns that the city doesn't support the military.
Secretary of the Navy Donald C. Winter vetoed plans this week for a commissioning ceremony for the Makin Island in San Francisco, said retired Marine Corps Maj. Gen. J. Michael Myatt, chairman of the citizens' commissioning committee.
Instead, San Diego will host the ceremony in which the crew formally takes charge of the ship, Myatt said.
Navy leaders were concerned about San Francisco's refusal to offer a homeport for the retired battleship Iowa, which would be turned into a museum, as well as the school board's decision to abolish junior ROTC training in city high schools, Myatt said.
Some city politicians also have publicly criticized the Pentagon. In one instance, Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval said national defense should be left to "the cops and the Coast Guard."
Myatt said the Navy had mistaken the views of some political leaders for the views of the majority of Bay Area citizens.
The last ship to be commissioned in San Francisco was the frigate McCampbell in the summer of 2002.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antimilitary; armedforces; military; moonbat; navy; pc; sanfrancisco; sf; unamerican
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To: kilowhskey
I would add to your list the USS Missouri. I was on the committee to bring MO to SFO. We got no support from Feinstien, Boxer, Dellums, The Chron, or any other congresscritter. Knowing what I know now, I'm glad she went to Hawaii. It's actually more appropriate for her to be in Hawaii, since the war with Japan started there, and ended on the deck of the Mighty Mo.
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posted on
12/04/2006 2:08:41 PM PST
by
AFreeBird
(If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
To: sageb1
"Myatt said the Navy had mistaken the views of some political leaders for the views of the majority of Bay Area citizens."
I was under the impression that the majority of the san fran population was quite fond of seamen
82
posted on
12/04/2006 2:09:26 PM PST
by
daku
("Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.")
To: AFreeBird
Point well taken. USS Arizona and USS Missouri make excellent bookends for WWII.
83
posted on
12/04/2006 2:12:29 PM PST
by
kilowhskey
(HEY! Senator Kerry: SMILE! You're on Candid Claymore!)
To: SoCalPol
Yeah, it's been some time since I was last down in Balboa Park with the PWs and FReepers. Last spring? I think... Anyways...I'm still on the SDPW group. Maybe we'll get some more counter-protests going again after the holidays. Anyways...here's a pic of me in PW "disguise" during a Temecula PW op last January...
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posted on
12/04/2006 2:21:07 PM PST
by
DogByte6RER
("Loose lips sink ships")
To: DogByte6RER
Note to San Francisco politicians: mouth off and keep on insulting our military and you just might find San Francisco our lowest priority when The Big Ones cometh.
85
posted on
12/04/2006 2:24:38 PM PST
by
pray4liberty
(School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
To: DogByte6RER
86
posted on
12/04/2006 2:29:40 PM PST
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
To: DogByte6RER
Love it, way to go dog. Keep up the good work.
87
posted on
12/04/2006 2:34:48 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(We Need A Border Fence Now)
To: DogByte6RER
Beaufiful ship.
I have a stupid question: what is it in the mission or size that determines the designation 'frigate' -v- 'destroyer' -v- 'cruiser'?
I asked because I noticed that Arleigh Burkes displace 9200 tons and are around 508 ft in length, almost the same as light cruisers during WW II. Ticonderoga-class cruisers looks similar to Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, in shape and size as well. What differentiates them?
USS Antiedam
USS Barry
To: SENTINEL
When I came to this realization in 1999, I sold my home in Santa Rosa, and moved my family to Alaska. Been there, done that. Hope you have good earthquake insurance. I hope you take your own advice and have good earthquake insurance.
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:03:46 PM PST
by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
To: LiteKeeper
HOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This is a Navy thread.
Thats HOOYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
90
posted on
12/04/2006 3:06:27 PM PST
by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
To: struwwelpeter
I was a Navy destroyer sailor in the 1980s and what I can tell you about my ship is that it had two screws (propellers) driven by two 1200 psi steam driven turbine engines.
The frigates that I saw in the 80s were single screw ships. Frigate were a bit smaller than destroyers, but like destroyers they are highly maneuverable on the ocean. Many of the frigates as well had a helo deck with a helicopter as well.
My ship, a Charles Adams Class guided missile destroyer, was capable of performing anti-sub operations (through our sonar and ASROCs) as well as anti-aircraft tracking and such with our twin harpoon missile launcher.
Here...I'll attach a photo or two of my ship, the USS Robison DDG-12.
BTW...cruisers are much larger ships and while I was never on one, I understand that a cruiser will typically serve as the "eyes and ears" of a fleet battle group through the use of its AEGIS system. If other ships in the battle group also have AEGIS (like the newer destroyers) the cruisers will typically lead the other AEGIS capable ships and serve as point or the clearinghouse for all incoming tactical info.
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:09:40 PM PST
by
DogByte6RER
("Loose lips sink ships")
To: PzLdr
About frickin' time!! The military [and the Federal government] ought to stick it to San Flamer every chance they get. Cut off the perks, cut off the funding wherever possible. Let those Marxist wannabes sue in Court for every penny. About frickin' time!! The military [and the Federal government] ought to stick it to San Flamer every chance they get. Cut off the pr!@ks, cut off the funding wherever possible. Let those Marxist wannabes sue in Court for every penny.
There fixed it.
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:10:11 PM PST
by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
To: The Blitherer
The San Fagsicko City Council wanted the ship named "Sodom of the Sea".
All the seamen they can dream of...
"...ask any gay guy you happen to see, what's the best meat stick? Sodom of the Sea..."
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:10:23 PM PST
by
SAMS
("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
To: struwwelpeter
I was a Navy destroyer sailor in the 1980s and what I can tell you about my ship is that it had two screws (propellers) driven by two 1200 psi steam driven turbine engines.
The frigates that I saw in the 80s were single screw ships. Frigate were a bit smaller than destroyers, but like destroyers they are highly maneuverable on the ocean. Many of the frigates as well had a helo deck with a helicopter as well.
My ship, a Charles Adams Class guided missile destroyer, was capable of performing anti-sub operations (through our sonar and ASROCs) as well as anti-aircraft tracking and such with our twin harpoon missile launcher.
Here...I'll attach a photo or two of my ship, the USS Robison DDG-12.
BTW...cruisers are much larger ships and while I was never on one, I understand that a cruiser will typically serve as the "eyes and ears" of a fleet battle group through the use of its AEGIS system. If other ships in the battle group also have AEGIS (like the newer destroyers) the cruisers will typically lead the other AEGIS capable ships and serve as point or the clearinghouse for all incoming tactical info.
94
posted on
12/04/2006 3:11:15 PM PST
by
DogByte6RER
("Loose lips sink ships")
To: mountn man
I think this should be a Joint Force thread...and I will remain true to my 44 year-Army roots! Hooah.
95
posted on
12/04/2006 3:22:01 PM PST
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: Charlespg
The federal government should remove ALL federal facilities from San Francisco, including the mint they have. Even the F.B.I. office should be removed from the city limits. Th en not even the schools would receive "extra" funds for educating the children of federal employees.
If Frisco, grants "amnesty" for illegals, and still has on the books the policy of not seeking/arresting deserters from the military (when feinstein was mayor), then frisco should not receive any federal funds, school or tobacco tax money....
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:23:58 PM PST
by
stumpy
To: LiteKeeper
I think this should be a Joint Force thread.I agree :)
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posted on
12/04/2006 3:24:28 PM PST
by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
To: oyez
Wrong ship. The ONLY ship fit for berthing in San Francisco is "The Raging Queen" of SNL fame.
98
posted on
12/04/2006 4:10:13 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: Dr.Zoidberg
Why waste ammo. Bring the IOWA in close. What's San Francisco going to do? Send the "Good Ship Lollipop" out to attack her?
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:15:42 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: PzLdr
Why waste ammo.
Why would it be a waste?
What's San Francisco going to do? Send the "Good Ship Lollipop" out to attack her?
It's been rumored that SF does have some powerful weapons, I think they were called Bunger-Buggers or something of the sort.
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posted on
12/04/2006 4:26:41 PM PST
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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