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1 posted on 11/26/2006 12:09:12 PM PST by carolgr
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Frightening. I wonder what our world will be like in 25 years.

I am seriously afraid for my children.


2 posted on 11/26/2006 12:11:17 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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Koranimal Bump.


3 posted on 11/26/2006 12:12:21 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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Ffirst, due to the agenda of islam in the secular fields, it is to be classed not as a religion, but as a subversive cult, completely outside of the 1st amendment. Secondly, or even firstly, this baboonery is to be suppressed as such.


4 posted on 11/26/2006 12:13:16 PM PST by GSlob
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Curious how the rabid Muslim haters rationalize their &quothate all Muslims" dogmas with the fact that the vast bulk of the forces doing the vast majority of the fighting and dying on OUR side in the war ARE Muslims. Guess it never quite occurs to the usual screamers in the Junk Media that people like, the Kurds for example, are Muslims.
5 posted on 11/26/2006 12:16:17 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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I've been beating this ( and a few other ) horses for years.
Will we wake up in time?

A partial listing:

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

-Terror Strike Toronto ( Aborted! )--

-Time to kick the tires & light the fires, folks- terrorism gathers across the World...--

-Jihad! Across the World....--

-All Terror, All the Time-- FR's links to NBC Warfare, Terror, and More...--

-IRAQ- some links to terror--

-The Web of Terror--

-Terror Tips--

-The Fire Down South...( Latin America--)--

Castro, the Carribean, and Terrorism

-Terror Strike! Madrid--

Nuclear, Biological, & Chemical Warfare- Survival Skills, Pt. II

-The Poor-Boy Nuke-- Bioterrorism***

-Jemaah Islamiah- Islamic Community, or Islamic Threat?--

-The Bali Horror- a partial Archive--

-Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)--

6 posted on 11/26/2006 12:17:29 PM PST by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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"With a population of over one billion Muslims the estimates are 150 million radicals currently with an additional 150 million Muslims who can be recruited into the ranks of radical Islam"

Looks like combined there is not a world class military force. They are the last ones to want to get to the nuclear table. Looks from these numbers they believe in making love not war. Did they invent the pill to ruin the West? Demographics is their way to conquer the world.

9 posted on 11/26/2006 12:24:12 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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11 posted on 11/26/2006 12:26:20 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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This is a problem that I've had all along:

While it is true that there are many peaceable Muslims it is not true that Islam itself is peaceable.

The problem is that Islam preconditions Muslims to think about "Muslim Problems" as purely internal issues that outsiders have no part questioning.

So even among the "70%" of non-radical Muslims there will be a huge number of folks who will reflexively offer air and comfort to the radicals because they are Muslims provided their victims are not.

I wonder if any study has been made to suggest how many millions of Muslim enablers there are out there?
12 posted on 11/26/2006 12:27:07 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I guess GW didn't get this memo.


16 posted on 11/26/2006 12:35:54 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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First of all our leaders including, the President should cease to call "Islam a religion of peace".
Second, - the Islam should be outlaw and treated as it really is : hate and fascism.
Then, we can take care of the rest of the Islamic crap.

26 posted on 11/26/2006 1:05:29 PM PST by SeeSalt
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I am proud to be an infidel . Islam is the cancer on our planet and there are no moderate muslims , don't kid yourselves , they have no allegance to any country , if you are not a muslim you are an infidel plain and simple . Islam is the religion of death not peace . The so called peaceful muslims who say they do not agree with the killing of innocent people are just as big a problem as the ones who advocate this violance . If my church were to take a position such as radical islam has the congregation would surely rise up in disapproval and oust the leaders of the church who advocate violance . If these so called moderate muslims are affraid of reprisal they do not deserve freedom from oppression or the liberties we have fought so hard to keep and maintain in this country . To hell with them , I say give them their 72 virgins as quickly as we can .


28 posted on 11/26/2006 1:08:25 PM PST by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. stands for -------- Islams Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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The problem isn't Islam, I can find an equal number of commands to kill in the Old Testament ans in Papal Bulls of the middle ages. The real problem is the Arab culture over which Islam has been superimposed. Arab culture was never subjected to the civilizing influences of the Greeks, Romans or Persians and is a tribal society still mired in the 6th century.
31 posted on 11/26/2006 1:14:02 PM PST by Natural Law
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Much of the problem is due to our own rot from within. How many of us can claim to be children of the Enlightenment anymore? Our left has become collectivists, where the only thing left to individualism comes without any of the responsibility that was once the hand inside of the glove.


45 posted on 11/26/2006 1:43:24 PM PST by GoLightly
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Unfortunately, PC will prevent the USA from ever doing anything to protect itself.


53 posted on 11/26/2006 2:00:10 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (PC kills every time it is applied)
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Basically here is what the Freeper Generals would have us do in Iraq.

Americans: Yo, all you Iraqis. Now we know you all have been oppressed and terrorized by Saddam and his goons for about 40 years so we came over here to show you a better way. So gather round and we are going to teach you this thing called Democracy. We want to teach you this cause we figure if we get can get enough of you following this ideology you will not follow the ideology that preaches it is a good thing to fly airplanes into buildings full of our Civilians.

Now the first things you need to learn is this part about the Rule of Law. Study the sub chapters on Innocent until prove Guilty, Trial by Jury, Right to Legal Representation and really important, the chapter on outlawing Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Ok, now while you do that, we are going to arbitrarily round up and kill any Iraqis who we think maybe have ever talked mean about us.


What? No we are not going to bother with any of that messy Democracy stuff cause we are at war. And according to our Holloweird Movie guide to Military Action flicks any time you are at war you can waste anyone who pisses you off for what ever reason you want any way you want to do it. According to Hollyweird, we don't need nothing like proof or nothing we can just go wack that little Al Sadr freak cause he pisses us off. Evidence? We don't need no stickin' evidence. Our action movie heros never bother with any evidence. In the Movie we watch on TV says we are just suppose to go kill him because he pisses us off so that what we want to do here. Now quit talking back and learn our lessons on Democracy.

Iraqi 1. Hey Mahmoud, why are we helping these clowns?

Iraqi 2. What do you mean Achmed, they got rid of Saddam!

Iraqi 1. They did? Looks to me like they just took his place.

Iraqi 2. Well ya so?

Iraqi 1. Well at least the old thugs were from around here. These guys are not only from out of town they are not even Muslims. We may has well have Muslim thugs if we got to have thugs.

Iraqi 2. You right, time to join the Jihad!

That is what Freeper General Counter Insurgency doctrine as learned from watching TV Sitcoms would produce. It is utter stupidity but forget trying to penetrate their welded shut minds. They are too busy screaming what Democrat Campaign Contributor Mike Savage told them to say to do any thinking about Iraq.

Way past time the Freeper Know Nothings sit down, shut up and actually finally learns some BASIC facts about Iraq. Why are you all so afraid to actually LEARN something? Afraid you might have to finally admit you all have been wrong about Iraq from the start?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Forces

http://icasualties.org/oif/

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx


55 posted on 11/26/2006 2:01:36 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: umgud; Fishtalk

Basically here is what the Freeper Generals would have us do in Iraq.

Americans: Yo, all you Iraqis. Now we know you all have been oppressed and terrorized by Saddam and his goons for about 40 years so we came over here to show you a better way. So gather round and we are going to teach you this thing called Democracy. We want to teach you this cause we figure if we get can get enough of you following this ideology you will not follow the ideology that preaches it is a good thing to fly airplanes into buildings full of our Civilians.

Now the first things you need to learn is this part about the Rule of Law. Study the sub chapters on Innocent until prove Guilty, Trial by Jury, Right to Legal Representation and really important, the chapter on outlawing Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Ok, now while you do that, we are going to arbitrarily round up and kill any Iraqis who we think maybe have ever talked mean about us.


What? No we are not going to bother with any of that messy Democracy stuff cause we are at war. And according to our Holloweird Movie guide to Military Action flicks any time you are at war you can waste anyone who pisses you off for what ever reason you want any way you want to do it. According to Hollyweird, we don't need nothing like proof or nothing we can just go wack that little Al Sadr freak cause he pisses us off. Evidence? We don't need no stickin' evidence. Our action movie heros never bother with any evidence. In the Movie we watch on TV says we are just suppose to go kill him because he pisses us off so that what we want to do here. Now quit talking back and learn our lessons on Democracy.

Iraqi 1. Hey Mahmoud, why are we helping these clowns?

Iraqi 2. What do you mean Achmed, they got rid of Saddam!

Iraqi 1. They did? Looks to me like they just took his place.

Iraqi 2. Well ya so?

Iraqi 1. Well at least the old thugs were from around here. These guys are not only from out of town they are not even Muslims. We may has well have Muslim thugs if we got to have thugs.

Iraqi 2. You right, time to join the Jihad!

That is what Freeper General Counter Insurgency doctrine as learned from watching TV Sitcoms would produce. It is utter stupidity but forget trying to penetrate their welded shut minds. They are too busy screaming what Democrat Campaign Contributor Mike Savage told them to say to do any thinking about Iraq.

Way past time the Freeper Know Nothings sit down, shut up and actually finally learns some BASIC facts about Iraq. Why are you all so afraid to actually LEARN something? Afraid you might have to finally admit you all have been wrong about Iraq from the start?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Forces

http://icasualties.org/oif/

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx


56 posted on 11/26/2006 2:02:25 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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Oh, come now. Mohammet was a man of peace. </sarc>
58 posted on 11/26/2006 2:04:51 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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There is NO moderate islam!

A foul and most treacherous lie, my infidel friend!

Actually only 10 or 12% of Muslims (a paltry 200-250 Million folks, or so) insist on your immediate death or conversion to our true faith. This being their version of their own personal jihad, I must support that aspect of our faith. Of course, even though I disagree with them, I would not dream of confronting them about it, or Allah forbid, go public with my views.

As a hip, Western-Educated Nuclear Physicist Modern Guy; one of those Moderate Muslims you insist do not exist, I easily tolerate your foul presence on Planet Allah. Just pay your dhimmi tax and follow Sharia Law. Of course, transgression coud lead to your death and enslavement. However, my racially prejudiced, politically incorrect friend,I am sure you agree that is still a far cry from the horror stories you are telling.

Muhammed, (May Peace Be Upon Him) was a most logical fellow. Why would I want to kill you or enslave you now, when it is written that you shall be my slave in Firdous (Paradise) forever? In the meantime I can make many many dinars from your obstinacy, using them to spread the True Faith among the infidels, and buy much cool stuff.

Besides if we kill all of you infidel heretics at once, who would buy our oil? Extending my hand in friendship, and wishing to deliver you from infidel ignorance unto the teachings of Allah's One True and Last Prophet, Muhammed, MPBUH,

I sincerely remain your friend and Spiritual Guidance Counselor, whether you like it or not.

Sachem ibn Phulin

69 posted on 11/26/2006 2:31:08 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The GOP, party of the markets, knows little about the marketing of candidates.)
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Sura "5.51": O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them;

What more is to be said of this antisocial religion....
88 posted on 11/26/2006 3:06:27 PM PST by Wraith (To have peace prepare for War.)
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"Islam is thought to be a peaceful religion. Both history and current events prove otherwise."

Exactly right.


102 posted on 11/26/2006 3:57:46 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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