A Message to All the Cut and Run Freepers Currently Polluting Free Republic

Friday, November 24, 2006 | Kristinn

[kristinn]

I'm reading an astonishing number of comments on Free Republic these days by posters who have joined the ranks of the anti-American left in calling for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Some claim to have military experience, some claim to be patriotic Americans and some claim to be smarter than the rest.

These posters are joining the Murtha-Rangel-McDermott treason caucus. Oh, they say they love the troops, but their decision to abandon them in the field speaks otherwise.

Three years ago, the United States led an international coalition to rid the world of one of the worst regimes on the planet. Saddam Hussein was an international terrorist: He financed terrorism, he trained terrorists and he harbored terrorists. He waged war on Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Israel. He waged war on the people of Iraq, including genocidal campaigns against the Kurds in the north and the marsh Arabs in the south.

Saddam successfully subverted the Oil-for-Food program and was wearing down support for continuing the sanctions keeping him in check.

He had numerous contacts with al Qaeda over the years. He tried to assassinate a former U.S. president. He maintained research capabilities to implement nuclear, chemical and biological weapons as soon as the sanctions were lifted. There is evidence that some of these programs would have been operational within a year even with the sanctions in place.

The decision to remove Saddam and his regime as part of the Global War on Terror was correct.

Three-and-a-half years after Iraq and the world were liberated from Saddam and his terrorist regime, there are those on Free Republic who are clamoring to give up, surrender, cut and run, stab the troops in the back, betray the Iraqis, betray our allies in the GWOT, spit on the graves of our fallen heroes and join Cindy Sheehan, Medea Benjamin and Ramsey Clark in bringing about America's defeat in the GWOT.

It's only been three-and-a-half years--only six months since the freely elected government in Iraq was formed. In that time, what has been called a mini-Marshall Plan of construction and reconstruction has come to fruition. The Iraqis have held three national elections, they have held numerous local elections, fourteen out of eighteen Iraq provinces are relatively peaceful and stable.

Six months ago, when the Iraqi government was formed, the experts said the war would be taken to Baghdad because our enemies in the region could not abide the example of a free, democratic society in the Middle East. For once, the experts were right. The battle of Baghdad has been a prolonged Tet Offensive style operation of headline-grabbing attacks intended to sap the morale of Americans and Iraqis alike.

From what I've been reading on Free Republic lately, a lot of Freepers have fallen for the enemy's ploy and are howling like barking moonbats for our immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Some of that talk is couched in talk of 'we're fighting a PC war like Vietnam!' The soldiers I met in Iraq recently told Debra Argel Bastian to pass on a message to the Vietnam vets criticizing the war: With all due respect to your service, this is not Vietnam. It is not being fought like Vietnam. Please let us finish our mission.

But our enemy is playing the Vietnam ploy to great benefit. They know they can count on the American and world media to broadcast their propaganda. They work with leftist Americans to sabotage the war effort at home. They know these leftist Americans have allies in the Democratic party. They know they do not need a military victory--only political and psychological victories are needed to defeat America.

You guys are playing right in to their hands. Congratulations.

There are those who argue that murder and dictatorship is the mindset of the Middle East and that will not be changed by our actions. Funny how those who smugly denigrate the Arab peoples' capacity for freedom forget the wholesale slaughter of millions of Westerners by Westerners at the hands of Western dictatorships just a few generations past.

I hear complaints that the Iraqis aren't standing up. Yet, to use one common example, when police recruits are slaughtered in bombings, Iraqis line up the next day at the same recruiting center. The insurgency is small in number, but they are able to do enough damage on a daily basis to stretch out the time it will take to secure the whole of Iraq.

At this time of our testing, the American people are starting to go wobbly. Sadly, many Freepers are too. Our troops and their Commander-in-Chief are not, thank God. It's only been three-and-a-half years. The progress made has been phenomonal. Throw in the towel now, and you'll just have the terrorists follow us home. Everyone knows that, including you. I'm not willing to pay that price, not now, not ever, but you are.

Let me close by offering similar sentiments recently offered by two men 'in the know' on the situation in Iraq who are not giving up. First, Kurdish Regional Government Prime Minister Barzani: "When I was in the United States recently and read the negative news in the Washington Post, New York Times and in the network TV broadcasts, I even wondered if things had gotten so bad since I had left that I shouldn't return."

Next, Gen. Abizaid: "When I come to Washington, I feel despair. When I'm in Iraq with my commanders, when I talk to our soldiers, when I talk to the Iraqi leadership, they are not despairing."

[NapkinUser]

"You done throwing your little tantrum?"

The real tantrum is being thrown by the true believers who still think this war is going just peachy. It's not.

I know the liberal media lies. They tell only the bad side, and I know there is a good side. But we can't just keep fighting like we're doing. The middle east has been fighting forever. Do we really want another hundred years war?

[uncbob]

Saddam tried to assassinate former president Bush

Kadafy gave up his Nuke program

And I guess Saddam booted out the inspectors so he could play Nitendo games in peace and just what would he have been doing the last 3 years

[He Rides A White Horse]

what it needs is a new dictator and a return to the stability of earlier.

...easy there, partner......

We have more Iraqis getting killed in the streets per day than we ever did under Hussein

I doubt that highly; I'm sure that there are plenty more mass graves waiting to be discovered.

The region is now unstable in a way it never was with Hussein, and we're the only thing holding it together.

This region has been unstable for a long, long time.

[HighWheeler]

"Do we have the tools, technology and brains, to kill the current lying MSM, without destroying the Constitution?"

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The Internet in general, and FreeRepublic specifically has taken out MSM terrorists like Mary Mapes and Dan Rather. We will eventually reach critical mass and crush them.

Next we need to PUSH HARD for conservatives in the PRIMARIES (bold type used just for the Cut and Run conservatives).

[MaineVoter2002]

America, on purpose, elected a democrat controlled Congress

America needed more than to hear the campaign "Vote republican if you dont want to wake up on wednesday morning and hear 'Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi"

My mom, who did vote, never even heard of Nancy pelosi until wednesday.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

If we don't fight evil overseas, we will have to fight it on our own shores. We must indeed pick our battles wisely--but pick them we must. There are wars thrust upon us and our allies--and sometimes waged by cruel tyrants against their own 'huddled masses' in whose defense we must stand. When this is so--and in Iraq ALL this most certainly has been so--we must pick up our weapons and fight...and WIN.

Not all who ask questions are intentionally being divisive, of course. As for those on and off this Forum who are--when it came to propaganda and cut 'n' run cowardice, Gramsci/Goebbels and Murtha/Kerry were not the first.

Here is Nehemiah's description of a similar situation in ancient times, also in the Mideast:

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For all of them were trying to frighten us, thinking, "They will become discouraged with the work and it will not be done."

(Then Nehemiah prayed) But now, O God, strengthen my hands....

...But I said, "Should a man like me flee?...Then I perceived that surely God had not sent him, but he uttered his prophecy against me because Tobiah and Sanballat had hired him.... So the wall was completed on the twenty-fifth of the month Elul, in fifty-two days. When all our enemies heard of it, and all the nations surrounding us saw it, they lost their confidence; for they recognized that this work had been accomplished with the help of our God...."

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Kristinn, thanks for the post and your faithful support of our troops.

TROOPS and VETS--THANKS as ALWAYS for putting your lives on the line for us!

Lyman

[tgslTakoma]

...we have brought relative peace to 14 or the 18 provinces, more and more operations and areas are being turned over to Iraqis to lead, and sometimes run without US/coalition troops involved.

But the media won't report on this, so it doesn't exist as fact in some people's minds. Therefore, they believe what the media is spoonfeeding them - that it's a QUAGMIRE, and we must get out now.

And then the terrorists will move forward with their plans to bring their war back onto our shores.

--Winners never quit and quitters never win. --Sr. Raymond Anthony, Takoma Park, MD, 1969

[technomage]

Huh?

I agree!!

[Rome2000]

There has not been a legitimate propaganda effort by this administration to win the hearts and minds of the American populace.

You shouldn't need to read about the good things happening in Iraq on Freerepublic.com.

If the degenerate socialist crooks in the press and Donkeycrat party are determined to lose the war they should be fought as hard and as viciously by GOP propagandists at least as hard as our troops fight the ragheads.

The troops deserve nothing less.

[Revolting cat!]

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Mistakes haven't been made.

[wku man]

The whole country, save the Kurdish areas, should have been our target. Carpet bombing, wide-scale and indiscriminate, should have been the first phase of the "war". Terrorize those ragheaded SOBs, beat them into submission, and scare the living hell out of the rest of the Muslim ragheaded, goat-lovin' world at the same time. Precision bombing only sends a message that there are some lines we're not willing to cross, and in the Eastern mindset, that seen as a weakness. The only way to beat them it to show the entire Muslim world they can't possibly stand up to us, and to do so would only result in their extinction.

But to do so would mean we'd have to have leaders with spines, which we don't have. We'd have to have military and civilian leaders who remember what it means to fight a real war, which we don't have.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[gardencatz]

The Iraqi people were celebrating the death of our soldiers in Falluja. They danced on the corpses and spread the bodies out like sick animals. When Israel was defending itself from Hezbollah rocket attacks, they were marching in the streets and denouncing Israel. The rejoiced when American soldiers were killed, and they still do.

In order to effectively answer wouldn't we have to know just how many Iraqis were doing this. The majority? A small percentage of a community? To watch the news over here you'd think the majority of people were out protesting the war as well, but we all know that's not the case. That said, one of the things about bringing freedom to people is they may not feel compelled to think and feel the way we'd like them to.

Cindie

[Brad from Tennessee]

You right. Because of Iraq we had a military presence over there after Gulf War I. We faced a growing threat to our personnel stationed around the Gulf region from terrorists. This manifested itself in Kohbar Towers and the U.S.S. Cole. The options we faced were pulling completely out of the region or regime change in Iraq. The clock was ticking on the UN sanctions. Europe, China and Russia were ready to lift them. Oil-for-Food turned out to be a sham. It was only a matter of time before Saddam got his full oil revenue back and started terrorizing his neighbors again. The Clinton Administration, in their last two years, formulated the regime change policy. It was supported by many Democrats and the policy was inherited by Bush. The case for invading Iraq was put forward in the book--"The Thundering Storm"--by Kenneth Polick who was a national security expert under Clinton. There has been a lot of historical revision in just six or seven years.

[GoLightly]

Thank you for posting this!

[Cobra64]

Your remarks on other threads indicate your immaturity, and most are confrontational towards fellow FReepers. My 26 and 28 year old children have a higher maturity level than you appear to display. I hear that there's a new game out that maybe mommy can get you for Christmas.

[Revolting cat!]

I agree!!

No comment.

[guinnessman]

I'm not talking about FReepers.

I'm talking about friends who get their news from the DBM.

[NapkinUser]

"Name one good thing it has done for us to have him gone -- and I mean for US, not for freedom or democracy or the Iraqi people or any of that BS."

I'm glad Saddam Hussein is gone. But his being gone really hasn't made America safer. It's still nice that he is going to hang.

But the people who have responded to this haven't really answered, they just attacked you.

[uncbob]

America needed more than to hear the campaign "Vote republican if you dont want to wake up on wednesday morning and hear 'Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi" My mom, who did vote, never even heard of Nancy pelosi until wednesday.

Exactly
They had NO IDEA what their vote really meant

[RobbyS]

Well, we didn't have to install a dictator. We did have to install a government. I still can't figure out why we didn't establish a government from the exiles. What I gather that the administration was divided, with state and the CIA on one side and Defense on the other, with Rice refereeing.