[Obie Wan]

As Terri Shrivo would say if she could, if you're disabled they'll pull your life support plug to kill you and if you don't die then they'll figure out some other way to kill you,( in my case it was starvation ) !!!

[Seruzawa]

Well, since socialism is so gadawfuully inefficient some adjustments have to be made. The idea that a free enterprise society would have enough abundance to take care of those who can't take care of themselves would never occur to the these filthy european marxists.

Europe is the center of evil in the world. It has been for centuries. Hitler, Marx, Spencer, Malthus, Hegel......opium wars, world wars, etc etc ad infinitum.

[uglybiker]

We should be thankful the Hensel twins were born here instead of Britain.

[Tamzee]

lethal act would only be performed with manifest reluctance

Where have we heard that again? Oh, yeah... "safe, legal and RARE".

The world has turned into a House of Horrors :-(

[relictele]

If the CofE were in charge in Europe in olden times, I guess they would have had Quasimodo put down and the bells at Notre Dame would never have rung.

[unlearner]

Has been a problem for thousands of years. Religion and the good works of man fail the test of true compassion and are unable to satisfy the most important need of mankind.

Mark 10:30-35 Jesus answering said, “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his clothing, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

Proverbs 12:10b The tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

[SvdByFaith]

"...the high financial cost of keeping desperately ill babies alive should be a factor in life or death decisions.

Everything these days boils down to COST. Who can save them the most money, how they can cut costs so they can have more money to spend, how they can kill the unborn so they can go on living their lifestyles.

Jesus said, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. YOU CANNOT SERVE BOTH GOD AND MONEY." Matthew 6:24

[ilovew]

One of my best friends has cerebral palsy. I'm glad her parents didn't decide that it would be too much trouble to let her live.

[Salvation]

Unbelievable.

Living souls. Lord have mercy!

[Salvation]

Sorry, but I must post this oldie, but goodie!

First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller

Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.

When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.

Strength of community is a strength as much as individualism, as long you are willing to face weaknesses in your own community. Ignoring slacking values will mean that you will be rallied against by those you oppress.

Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!
Vexen Crabtree

[visualops]

The principle of justice inevitably means that the potential cost of treatment itself, the longer term costs of health care and education and opportunity cost to the NHS in terms of saving other lives have to be considered."

Ah, so it's "justice" if the cost of taking care of you is part of determining whether you should live or die!

The Devil is laughing.

[GOP_Thug_Mom]

ping for later

[Gondring]

Some Christians have long argued that life should preserved at all costs...

There, fixed it!

On the other hand, many Christians recognize that there are things more important than life.

[Candor7]

One wonders where the age of humanism has gone? Just look at the Archbishop of Canterbury and you will get my drift.[http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_04121row.shtml]

Ecclesiastical Infanticide , who would have thought that the descendants of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table could stoop so low!

The Church of England is basically controlled by queers.Not much wonder that they promote infanticide, they have had none of their own, nor do they plan to.

[Candor7]

Well , you know , this just goes to show you that some prelates just thnk they ARE God. Thats the problem. And they deserve a severe spanking by the hand of GOD.

[cookcounty]

I'm all for letting sick churches die.

The only remaining questiion is will the funeral for the Church of England be held at Westminster, or will they have it at the Captain Hook Mosque?

[NutCrackerBoy]

At the extreme, it is certainly unwise for the doctor and family to deploy wildly expensive desperate measures to prolong some hours of life when prognosis is overwhelmingly bleak.

Codifying this wisdom formally is dicy.

[traviskicks]

"And the Bishop of Southwark, Tom Butler, who is the vice chair of the Church of England's Mission and Public Affairs Council, has also argued that the high financial cost of keeping desperately ill babies alive should be a factor in life or death decisions."
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The cost should belong to the family, not the state, where this problem stems.

[traviskicks]

moral absolute ping?
(socialized medicine alert)

[Dustbunny]

A girl we used to work with had a baby the hospital fought to keep alive. She was in the hospital 6 months. She is blind, deaf and they believe retarded due to lack of oxygen. When I last saw her she was 18 mos., could not walk, sit up or crawl. She just laid there. Heart breaking.