1 posted on
11/12/2006 5:21:27 PM PST by
xzins
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The church stressed that it was not saying some lives were not worth living, but said there were "strong proportionate reasons" for "overriding the presupposition that life should be maintained". The bishop's submission continued: "There may be occasions where, for a Christian, compassion will override the 'rule' that life should inevitably be preserved.
"Disproportionate treatment for the sake of prolonging life is an example of this.
The church said it would support the potentially fatal withdrawal of treatment only if all alternatives had been considered, "so that the possibly lethal act would only be performed with manifest reluctance."
2 posted on
11/12/2006 5:22:50 PM PST by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
To: xzins
So God's Will and His Greater Plan be damned, is that it?
3 posted on
11/12/2006 5:23:16 PM PST by
Tanniker Smith
(I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
To: MadIvan
Being on that side of the pond, what's your take on this?
To: xzins
I wonder how these church leaders are going to explain this on Judgment Day?
8 posted on
11/12/2006 5:26:15 PM PST by
TommyDale
(Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
To: xzins
How soon before the church starts performing abortions?
To: xzins
So, as society, we are back to Sparta in ancient Greece, where the infirm elderly, the sick, the disabled, the babies no one wants, are brought to a hillside and left to die. Abortion and euthanasia are the precursors of these travesties and they are already upon us here in the United States.
May God have mercy!!!
11 posted on
11/12/2006 5:28:53 PM PST by
vox_freedom
(Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
To: xzins
You've got to be cruel to be kind. Sometimes, love hurts. This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you. Charity, Christian love, (Caritas), demands that we do not help you.
So, now at least we can fix a price on human life. Let's start the bidding at 10 pounds.... do I hear 20?
To: xzins
"The church stressed that it was not saying some lives were not worth living, but said there were "strong proportionate reasons" for "overriding the presupposition that life should be maintained". "
-The Church of Nazism
13 posted on
11/12/2006 5:29:20 PM PST by
Vinny
(You can't compromise with evil.)
To: xzins
the high financial cost of keeping desperately ill babies alive should be a factor in life or death decisions.
Their concept is that the human costs too much so they must be destroyed. What's the view on capital punishment for murderers over there? If you want to be homicidal why stop with babies. That bishop is probably ugly as hell and should be terminated as well.
14 posted on
11/12/2006 5:29:25 PM PST by
kinoxi
To: xzins
Hmmm... I was was just readinfthe other day how when the Nazi's came to power, they starting killing the useless eaters, elderly, disable and deformed children, etc. etc.
Evil is as evil does. What don't this freaking idiots understand about that?
To: xzins
If we lose the value that human life has both sanctity and dignity and that only God can play God, I think we are finished.
16 posted on
11/12/2006 5:29:36 PM PST by
stevem
To: xzins
The church stressed that it was not saying some lives were not worth living, but said there were "strong proportionate reasons" for "overriding the presupposition that life should be maintained".
WTF is a 'strong proportionate reason'? O_o
To: xzins
The Church Of England is post-Christian. The Cross has been emptied in England of both spiritual and ethical import.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
19 posted on
11/12/2006 5:31:57 PM PST by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: xzins
Does "sick newborn babies" include those who have a genetic tendency to become liberals or Islamic death cult members?
21 posted on
11/12/2006 5:32:18 PM PST by
Screamname
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To: xzins
Government is now capitalized but God is not. That is the message between the lines. It is now considered quaint and old fashioned to defend life. The government is accepted by all to be the final arbiter in this decision.
The secularists will eventually win all disputes because government gives ordinary citizens benefits and laws while God just promises eternal life. Benefits and laws are tangible while religious mores, morals and promises are intangible. The "golden calf" remains an object of worship only it is not called that.
To: xzins
Maybe I'm just reading this wrong but it almost sounds to me like they're saying that there are times that using every available method to extend life is not always the best decision. Sometimes it is better to let nature take its course.
I know if I had a child who was born with some type of defect that was going to kill them very quickly, I would not want that child to be hooked up to every machine possible to keep him/her alive for a few days or weeks. I would put it into God's hands and trust him to do what he knows is best. If the child dies, then they would be in heaven. If God decided to heal the child, then I would be grateful beyond words.
That said, I would not advocate killing a child because they're blind, deaf, missing an arm or leg, or something along those lines. That would be murder.
25 posted on
11/12/2006 5:32:57 PM PST by
COEXERJ145
(Just one day without polls would be nice.)
To: xzins
I would like for him to imagine Jesus, Himself standing right next to him, and then saying that out loud!
To: xzins; pryncessraych; aroostook war; TheRake; rogator; kellynla; redgirlinabluestate; ...
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30 posted on
11/12/2006 5:36:32 PM PST by
narses
(St Thomas says ? lex injusta non obligat.)
To: xzins; sionnsar; Coleus; wagglebee
OMG, a terrible developement in the Anglican Church.
32 posted on
11/12/2006 5:36:58 PM PST by
Irish_Thatcherite
(A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
To: xzins
The Times of London's article was vague about the authority of this submission, making it appear that this bishop might have written it on his own hook. But this article makes it appear that the bishop's submission has considerable authority as being the Church of England's position.
Utterly damnable.
34 posted on
11/12/2006 5:38:32 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
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