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The MSM is not on our side. The Department of Defense Information Operations and Public Affairs communities are ham-strung by their Democrat overlords.

Who does domestic counter-psyops?

We do.

Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group

1 posted on 11/09/2006 3:49:15 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
It was a simple matter of getting the American media to ignore the battlefield victories while accentuating al Qaeda's attacks.

The Media were and are willing accomplices - they're weren't inveigled into it.

2 posted on 11/09/2006 3:51:38 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
A reporter for Time magazine, who embedded with the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, had his article completely rewritten by editors who felt his portrayal of American troops was too positive.

I would love to know more about this.

3 posted on 11/09/2006 3:56:13 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Another Al Qaeda Victory in Iraq? Didn't the Left keep telling us that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or Al Qaeda?
8 posted on 11/09/2006 4:21:48 AM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

When a foreign enemy can ally themselves with roughly half of the population, kill thousands of innocent citizens and have almost half of the population blame the government and few seen to care; when the border apparently is wide open and the President wants to give away citizenship to anyone who can break enough laws to get here; when the government wants to open a corridor right through the center of the country from Mexico to Canada; with all of this taking place, I wonder how close we are to a second civil war.


9 posted on 11/09/2006 4:34:33 AM PST by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

I am so glad other people see this. It's disgusting and I truly believe that those in the so called MSM will eventually have to pay a price for their treasonous acts.


11 posted on 11/09/2006 4:38:17 AM PST by Cricket24 (ULTRA PATRIOT!!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

The worst part of this is how this election has dissed the troops. The only people willing to take on the enemy have been debased by the media misinformation campaign that has been going on since 9-11. Exposing them would be nice, but who in the media will report on themselves.
Based on Tuesday, I see a very divided nation, one side content to live their life in denial, the other side totally frustrated that their own people hate their country and allow leftists to misle them with words and fake pictures.


13 posted on 11/09/2006 4:57:40 AM PST by dforest (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
This is what is referred to by some as "4th Generational Warfare". It is fought only as necessary on the battlefield. The real "war" is for the "will" of the opponents decision makers (and population). I can tell you for certain that the attacks on US forces in Iraq during the month of October were intended to inflict as many casualties as possible in an attempt to influence the US election. This was their strategic intention and they succeeded. The press and the Democrats were naive accomplices as both capitalized on the insurgent activity to achieve their own ends (sensational stories & political power).

When told by Col Harry Summers that the North Vietnamese/Viet Cong had never defeated by the US military on the battlefields of Vietnam, General Giap responded, "That is true, but also irrelevant".
14 posted on 11/09/2006 5:04:09 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

The biggest problem in the short run is that our troops in Iraq will be in very grave danger because some Iraqis will now turn on them to suck up to the terrorists. There is NO spin machine on the streets of Iraq. It is what it is in their eyes, and it aint good. Pray with me that I am wrong.


15 posted on 11/09/2006 5:05:23 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Millions of Democrat babies aborted in 1988 or earlier did not vote this year.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

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18 posted on 11/09/2006 5:32:21 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

If it’s any consolation, this is not the beginning of the end of Western civilization. It is the end of the beginning… of the end of Western civilization.

Three years ago, I wrote a screed called Tet II in which I predicted that American liberals would once again turn victory into defeat – this time in Iraq.

But Bush did not crack, and I found myself actually daring to hope that our Captain MacWhirr would, out of sheer unimaginative stubbornness, tame the coolies in the hold and outlast the typhoon.

Oddly, it was a storm that dashed that hope. Not a typhoon, but a hurricane. Katrina. The delayed result of those breached levies: we will soon enter the new Dark Ages.

I am not blaming this election. It is a result more than a cause. But there are irreversible moments in history, moments after which the toothpaste cannot ever be put back into the tube. We are in such a moment.

Bush seemed about to confront the crisis five years ago. But the war – not the war in Iraq, but the war here over Iraq – undermined his efforts and distracted him from the task. He must take some of the blame for that. Now, we have just elected the team least likely to tackle the job and instituted policy gridlock where we need urgent action. Looking back it was probably all inevitable. It is about who we are. Our failings as a people.

Let me assert a couple of simple facts. I will not try to prove them. They are self evident to reasonable people. Unreasonable people are not my audience, and no proof would suffice for them, anyway.

First assertion: In the modern world of porous borders, massively destructive and easily secreted weaponry, huge concentrations of exposed economic value and apocalyptic religious fundamentalism, preemption is the only viable strategy for combating an implacable terrorist enemy bent solely on destruction. The Maginot Line did not work in two dimensions; it certainly will not in four.

Second assertion, to misquote Captain Segura (Ernie Kovacs): “There are two classes of people: those who can be [terrorized] and those who can't”. Terrorism only works with the consent of the terrorized. If you refuse to be terrorized, terrorism does not work. If it does not work, it will, eventually, not happen. To allow it to work is to invite it to happen. The successfully terrorized victim serves as accomplice to the terrorist.

The Left invites terrorism. Partly because they are weak in the face of life’s adversities. Partly, here and now, because it suits their tactical political agendas. They are the coolies in the hold, rioting over gold – aboard a ship about to founder.

Our enemy knew that this sort of mutiny is the inescapable curse of the American psyche. That they could call and raise, again and again, in Iraq – backing an obviously losing hand. Inevitably, America would fold.

This knowledge emboldened them to launch, and then to persevere in their insurgency – which grew as the anti-war movement gained strength. And vice versa.

The Left, by sensitizing themselves and us to the terror, became an accomplice – a catalyst in the killing and maiming of thousands of American servicemen. The Left, in turn, directly benefited. The more they could make it appear that our policy in Iraq was “Bush’s failed policy” – even at the cost of causing it to fail – the better their political fortunes, as the election proved.

This is not about incrimination – although it does sound like it, I admit. It is too late for that now. And we can’t, ultimately, blame the Left and its chief weapon, the Media. The failure is ours, the American people’s. With popular sovereignty comes responsibility. We have been tested; and found wanting. Now we will face the consequences. And they will bring us, all of us, more than enough penance.

The impending crisis involves nukes. They are paradigm-shifting weapons that invalidate Segura’s Law. You can maintain a stiff upper lip to the occasional terror bombing, but stoical detachment cannot withstand nuclear attack.

If Iraq had succeeded, it might have aborted this future. Brought Western values to the Middle East and disarmed Iran and North Korea. But now, other radical States will actively seek nuclear technology. Iran will not be disarmed. North Korea will, eventually, dispense its weapons.

In a couple of years, we will have passed the point of no return. The toothpaste will be out of the tube. Terrorists will have nukes. And, inevitably, terrorists will use those nukes on us.

Bush’s strategy was preemption: to attach and destroy the terrorist in their homes before they could muster an attack. To eliminate the festering failed States that sustained them.

We will soon adopt a new course: we will “redeploy” out of Iraq – tail between our legs. And the terrorist will follow us home. The nuclear attacks will be random, unstoppable and devastating.

The British could ignore the destruction of the old Commercial Union Building in London a generation ago. America ultimately shrugged off the Twin Towers five years ago. But New York, Chicago, London, Paris… The loss of entire cities will cripple Western economies and traumatize all civilized peoples. We will be locked in an unwinable asymmetrical war of attrition: our landmark cities for their caves and mud-huts.

The only way to fight terrorism, if you cannot prevent the attacks, is to ignore the effects. – as the British tried to ignore the IRA bombings. The only way to ignore nuclear terrorism is to preemptively “redeploy out of the crosshairs. The great city is the emblem of Western Civilization. Within years they will die – abandoned or incinerated.

But the “redeployment” will not be fast enough, or thorough enough. When the strikes come, the toll will be staggering. A thousand fold or more what we have lost in Iraq. Or on 9/11. Then more millions will die of disease and famine.

The great things we have, as a civilization, built on the Earth over one thousand years will evaporate. We will be left, some of us, to scrape out our bitter existence amidst the ruble in what were the suburbs.

But at least the Left will have succeeded in one thing: eliminating the root cause of Islamic radicalism. The gulf that divides Christendom and the Caliphate. The gulf that energizes their hatred for us. For we and our works will have been laid low.

And then…. Who knows? One guess: dung beetles, muttering “Allah Akbar”, feasting on the remains of Western Civilization.


20 posted on 11/09/2006 5:44:49 AM PST by FlameThrower
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

OK, FYI America. The rest of you America(not on FR, not most of you) saw personal political gain to take down the president over 9-11 and subsequent events all tied to global jihad. Now the most ambitious of the left are in power without a f__king plan on how to deal with the enemy. They just saw personal oportunity instead of national tradgedy. They are that nefariuos.

Down here in Mississippi I feel I am off of Al Queda's radar for now the way LA, Chicago, New York, DC, or even San Francisco is Nancy. Sleep tight tonight America!


25 posted on 11/09/2006 6:58:16 AM PST by swampmonster
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