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The Truth about the War
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 3 November 2006 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 11/03/2006 3:10:23 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

I’m had as hell, and I want to state some truths about the war against Islamo-fascists.

The first truth about the war is that we ARE at war. Days after the attacks of 9/11 Congress folded a Joint Resolution into the Patriot Act. In that Resolution, and again a year later, Congress gave President Bush the authority to “use all necessary military force” against the “terrorists, and nations which harbor them.”

Those who’ve done their homework, know that Congress used almost identical language now, as Congress used in 1805 for President Jefferson to go after the Barbary Pirates. That was the one other time we declared war, per the Constitution, without naming a particular nation as the enemy.

So, for those who stupidly (or dishonestly if they know better), say we are NOT at war, I say LEARN TO READ. Until you learn how to read, SHUT UP because you spreading lies that will get Americans killed.

The second truth is this is a relatively bloodless war. There is a well-received movie now in theaters, called “The Flags of Our Fathers.” It’s about Iwo Jima, and centers on the six men who raised the flag there, which was a powerful symbol of American determination to win that war, and was transformed into the Marine Memorial outside Washington.

Twice as many Americans died in the first four days on Iwo Jima than have died in four years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Let me repeat that, because you have not seen that in the lamestream media. TWICE as many Americans died in FOUR DAYS on Iwo Jima than in FOUR YEARS in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And don’t give me that cr*p about “moral authority” to talk about war deaths. I know what it is like to lay a 21-year-old son in the ground. I guarantee the horror and the permanent pain is no less when he dies suddenly as a civilian, than in a war.

George Washington had no sons to lose in the Revolution. Does the “moral authority” crowd claim that he did not care for the lives of his soldiers, and seek to preserve their lives, within the greater concern of winning the war?

What do our current enemies intend to do, if they prevail? Like Hitler and Tojo and Lenin in WW II, like Pol Pot in Cambodia, this latest set of dictators make no secret of their intentions. Like the Inslamo-fascists, those prior dictators described the government they would establish if given the chance. All made it clear that those who opposed them were subhumans who would be sacrificed for the cause.

In short, most megalomaniacs predict their own behavior in advance, including the justification for mass murder. Then, when they gain power, they commit their murders. To anyone who doubts the intentions of the Islamo-fascists, I say again, LEARN TO READ. And until you do, STOP SPREADING LIES.

That brings us to the New York Times. They are running, as this election comes down to the wire, a series on military funerals of American dead from Iraq. Those who are experts in propaganda say, the most powerful lies are based in truth. These men, and some women ARE dying in Iraq and being buried. But where is the context?

I’ve read the microfilms of the Times from WW I and II, and the Civil War. All three contained battles like Iwo Jima, where Americans died by the thousands, or tens of thousands, in just days. Never did the Times run any features on those deaths, one by one.

So, what’s the difference between then and now? This time the Times is on the other side. Instead of supporting the war effort, it is cynically undermining American willingness to pursue the war to victory. The Times is not “honoring the dead.” Instead, the Times is engaging in COFFIN THUMPING to aid its political allies.

That brings us to the Democrat view that we can “negotiate” and reach “accommodation” with the Islamo-fascists. What will happen if the Democrats take charge of both Houses of Congress? (I’m already on record that I believe they will narrowly fail to take either House.)

Has the lamestream media ever heard of Neville Chamberlain and the Munich Pact? Chamberlain returned to England with a document signed by Adolf Hitler, Chamberlain assured the world that would produce “Peace for our times.” Well, the peace which it produced was called WW II. More than 50 million people died.

Chamberlain later apologized for being wrong. Will the Times apologize for millions of deaths when an American city is destroyed by a nuclear weapon? What is a proper apology for millions of deaths? Who will deliver the apology for the Times if one of the nuclear targets is New York, and the Times is vaporized?

Lastly, is there waste and abuse in wars? Has anyone heard of General Sherman? He said, “War is hell.” He was right. He’s still right. But war for the survival of America must be won. That is the only tolerable outcome.

And that’s the truth.

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About the Author: John Armor is a lawyer specializing in constitutional law, who may again be a candidate for Congress in the 11th District of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barbarypirates; declarationofwar; islamofascists; jointresolution
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To regular readers of FreeRepublic, none of the points here is new. But to regular readers of the lamestream media, all these major points are new. That's why I wrote it, and put it out in print and on the net.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 11/03/2006 3:10:25 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
"I’m had as hell, and I want..."

Same thing happened to me once. I've not bought a Chevy since.

I like the rest of the post too.

2 posted on 11/03/2006 3:13:47 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Congressman Billybob

Hear, here!


3 posted on 11/03/2006 3:18:18 PM PST by NicknamedBob (I dream the way some people get drunk. I have fun, but I can't remember anything.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Face it, president Bush totally miscalculated....

Yes, that is right, he miscalculated. He underestimated, he failed to understand the depth.

He just did not anticipate how low the Democrats would go to win power back.

He thought the Democrats would understand that a nation divided cannot stand.

He thought that the Democrats would put our national interests above their own petty political goals.

He had faith that the Democrats would be Americans first.

He just blew it.

He should be ashamed of how terribly he misjudged the patriotism of the Democrats.


4 posted on 11/03/2006 3:20:05 PM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"So, what’s the difference between then and now? This time the Times is on the other side. Instead of supporting the war effort, it is cynically undermining American willingness to pursue the war to victory. The Times is not “honoring the dead.” Instead, the Times is engaging in COFFIN THUMPING to aid its political allies."

Nicely stated, John. Thanks for the post.


5 posted on 11/03/2006 3:23:27 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Congressman Billybob

Great post. I'm going to send it to a few people I know.


6 posted on 11/03/2006 3:23:53 PM PST by Gvl_M3
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To: Congressman Billybob

"What is a proper apology for millions of deaths?"

Being arrested, tried, convicted, and imprisoned for life or put to death for treason would be a bare minimum...


7 posted on 11/03/2006 3:26:53 PM PST by piytar
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To: Paloma_55

Yes. The Democratic party is our country's Achilles' heel. The Democratic party is our fatal weakness.


8 posted on 11/03/2006 3:26:57 PM PST by syriacus (The Democratic party is our Achilles' heel, our fatal weakness.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

It is not the case that the Democrats do not realize there's a war on. They do, they just think it's against Bush.


9 posted on 11/03/2006 3:30:33 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Congressman Billybob
Amen, Billybob, sir.
10 posted on 11/03/2006 3:31:46 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Congressman Billybob; Recovering Ex-hippie; opbuzz; Warrior Nurse; Taxman

A classic, Congressman Billybob!


11 posted on 11/03/2006 3:57:33 PM PST by Chieftain (Cindy Sheehan is a shameful example of an American mother duped by Kerry's LIES!)
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To: Paloma_55
You are sooooo right,but my question is will the President and the Republicans ever learn!
12 posted on 11/03/2006 4:00:45 PM PST by patriciamary
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To: freema

Must read PING!


13 posted on 11/03/2006 4:08:58 PM PST by Chieftain (Cindy Sheehan is a shameful example of an American mother duped by Kerry's LIES!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Who will deliver the apology for the Times

Heck John, they have never appologized for all that lies propaganda they printed, concerning that paradise in Russia, under Lenin/Stalin.

14 posted on 11/03/2006 4:14:26 PM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day OR TaxRelief OR Alia if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
15 posted on 11/03/2006 4:18:36 PM PST by Alia (Rovember 7th: V-day. Be There. Vote R.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
We are at war with but one enemy, Islam. Islam is not fascist, but totalitarian.

Domestic division burdens our war effort. Lacking is wisdom among our leaders to present how our enemy threatens our nation as a whole, and every individual be they conservative, liberal, Democrat, Republican, whatever race, nationality, age, gender or religion. Islam has named all America as an enemy.

Neville Chamberlain represents the dangers of a nation divided. Chamberlain, a conservative, turned a deaf ear on the beleaguered Winston Churchill, another conservative. When called upon, Churchill did not use his position to rally conservative victories, but unite his entire nation in winning the war. He placed party second to the war effort, and by so doing his party realized a rise in political fortunes.

If President Bush is correct that only a segment of Islam is our enemy, then he might be correct for neglecting Congress put at his disposal all necessary military force to defeat our enemy. If our enemy is Islam, he has elected to abandoned all-out war the likes of General Sherman waged against the South, and waged by our military forces in every war before the Korean War.

If Islam is the enemy, President Bush has misrepresented our enemy as having peaceful intents, and thus adding to the divisions within our nation. And while his religion of peace rhetoric has slowly subsided, the actions undertaken by his administration to relocate Muslims from other nations into the USA speaks to his persistence in presenting Islam as a religion of peace and forcing it into American society. Actions do speak louder than words. I have no qualms in stating all Muslims in our nation should have been either returned to their nation of origin or interned following the attacks of 9-11.

Only when leaders speak to a higher calling and express by example how Islam would trample the rights and lives of liberals right along with conservatives will our nation begin to find the sort of unity our nation relied upon in WWII.

It should be noted that conservatives, mostly Republicans similar in nature to Britain’s Chamberlain, stood in opposition to FDR in the years before we entered WWII. It took much wisdom for FDR to appoint the conservative Republican Henry Stimson as Secretary of War to help unify our political parties as Americans first and foremost against our common enemy. Stimson was a conservative in the same mold as Britain’s Churchill.

As for the war in Iraq specifically, I detested Saddam Hussein, but what have we gained by toppling a secular government headed by a dictator and replacing it with an Islamic democracy? Lest anyone forget, both Mussolini and Hitler arose within democracies. Further, when fighting Germany, our objective was not to solely defeat Nazis which delivered barely more than 30% of the vote that raised up Hitler. Our objective was to defeat the whole of Germany that made it possible for the likes of Hitler to gain power.

And as Iran threatens with nuclear ambitions, remember all, it was not the UN, nor Israel, the USA, Russia, Britain, France or China that quelled the earlier Iranian ambitions. It was Iraq that bombed Iranian nuclear facilities in 1980, and nary a voice of protested.

Will we ever trust the new Islamic government in Iraq to do likewise? I think not because they are both Islamic first and foremost. This will join them together against us so one day we will have to send another generation of young American men and women to sacrifice their lives for our nation. This destiny is promised because we failed to deliver all-out war upon our enemy.
16 posted on 11/03/2006 4:36:40 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: Congressman Billybob

What terrible irony. I just read the following quote from Time Magazine following the invasion, in 1943, of the Gilbert Islands.

The assault on Betio Island at Tarawa atoll resulted in more than 1,000 dead and over 2,000 wounded. The press labored, in typical fashion, over the problems and miscalculations that resulted in heavy casualties.

The criticism in print was intense, no one yet realized the toll that would be exacted by island fighting against a fortified enemy who preferred death to surrender. Yet, Americans plumbed depths of gritty determination they were seldom called to demonstrate and continued to support the military effort.

Americans understood the stakes involved then and even a writer for Time Magazine perceived the significance of those events:

"Last week some 2,000 or 3,000 United States Marines, most of them now dead or wounded, gave the nation a name to stand beside those of Concord Bridge, the Bon Homme Richard, the Alamo, Little Big Horn, and Belleau Wood. The name was Tarawa..."

Where, merciful God, has the good judgment of our publishers and broadcasters fled?


17 posted on 11/03/2006 4:38:15 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: Congressman Billybob
Very good. However, I would point out an area where the Administration has let us down: duration.

Based on refusal to increase the size of the Army, one must conclude they either really believed this was a one-two year effort, or they found it politically unacceptable to tell folks this was going to take a long time.

We have 30K troops still in Korea after 53 years. To create a reasonable democracy in Iraq (which I still believe was the BEST reason to go to war - strategically, it was brilliant), a lengthy stay will be required. Insurgencies typically take 15-20 years. Training a competent military requires training good NCOs, which requires 10 years minimum.

I wish the Administration had always said we would need to be there in some form for 10 years, and built up the Army to do so. And this is coming from a second generation US Air Force guy!
18 posted on 11/03/2006 4:45:43 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: backtothestreets

Those who refuse to see the truth now will never see it.

They will curse God and kill us insead.


19 posted on 11/03/2006 5:54:04 PM PST by DonnerT (Global Idiologic Genocide!)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Chieftain

I saw an article today, "Webb stumps with big names; Allen shakes hands at cigarette plant" by AP reporters Bob Lewis and Matthew Barakat.

"'Why is it the war on terrorism seems to be fought between September and November every even-numbered year?' Obama, the son of a Kenyan immigrant, said on the campus of the predominatly black college."
"'The American people are in a serious mood now,' Obama said."
-Obama Barak, Virginia Union University November 2, 2006

I will not forget this.

For, you see, Obama doesn't realize some Americans have been at war every day for quite some time...not only during September and November every even-numbered year. Birds of a feather:
Kerry, murtha, and "Obama".


20 posted on 11/03/2006 6:39:13 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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