Posted on 10/15/2006 3:12:59 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Beijing Duped by Pyongyang = A high-ranking Chinese official confessed, "We could not find out whether N. Korea possessed nuclear weapons, nor how far N. Korean nuclear development progressed."
Such information have to be obtained through intelligence network inside N. Korea, but a few years ago, a man in charge of State Security Bureau in Yanji City was bribed with $300,000 by N. Korean intelligence, and China's intelligence network inside N. Korea was wiped out overnight (due to information N. Koreans got from him in return.) Since then, China's intelligence network on N. Korea is virtually non-existent.
Furthermore, the day before the nuclear test, Oct. 8, 'Reference News', put out by state media Xinhua, reported, "N. Korea is supposed to halt nuclear test with some condition."
Chang Sung-min, 'Peace Forum for World and N. E. Asia' (former S. Korean legislator) said that, according to his Chinese source, N. Koreans 'denied' the allegation that nuclear test was imminent, and told Chinese that they could consider stopping the test if N. Korea and U.S. can have face-to-face talks.
If this is true, N. Korea duped China up until the day before the test. After calming them down, N. Korea conducted the test 137km away from Yanji, 185km from Russian border, and 262km from S. Korea.
A Chinese expert on N. Korea complained, "Kim Jong-il deceived not only the whole world but also China. Now people are asking what China has been doing all along. The most irritating result is that N. Korea's nuclear weapons may be in effect aimed at China."
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This is a big news, if true.
Ping!
It's a real bitch when your pet rat turns around and bites the hand that feeds it....
"The most irritating result is that N. Korea's nuclear weapons may be in effect aimed at China."
Eh, not sure I believe this part.
Crap. The little twerp may be smarter than we all thought.
"The little twerp may be smarter than we all thought."
All the more reason to take him out now and not wait until his next 'test'.
I don't believe it. If true, China would not admit something like that.
China's man in PyongYang ought to check to see if his bribe money is legal tender.
"All the more reason to take him out now and not wait until his next 'test'. "
Yup. Kim's regime is a cancer - go through a little pain to get rid of those gangsters now, or a lot of pain to do it later. The longer the wait, the more time they have to spread their malignant influence in the world.
The choice is clear!
Russia considers their tails covered and feels they are now free to covertly transport such armaments or the technology to build them as the world is inclined to believe that N. Korea has already produced said armament on it's own. Russia establishes a new client for nuclear technology without directly exposing itself as the provider of said technology. Maybe N. Korea keeps them or sells them to other rogue nations? Their money is still good...
OK, more coffee...
Yet here is another aspect to this. China has the upcoming Olympics to be concerned about. They are pouring loads of national resources into this effort as a showcase for what the nation and the Communist party has achieved. Having a nuclear power lead by a madman on their border simply isn't good for tourism. It could savagely curtail their efforts towards the end of complete and total failure to even get certain major nations to compete or show up, whether they are friendly or not.
Russia might not mind this at all. China is a rival empire, an allie at times, but no less a rival for the most part. So maybe China has a far larger stake in a nuclear N. Korea than they appear to display. This can't be a good thing for China. They can't even convince Kim-illin' to return Chinese trains loaded with relief and supplies some of the time. The N. Koreans keep the trains and use them for state commerce, stating that the trains are part of the relief. Makes the Chinese look very, very weak.
N. Korea's ace in the hole? 20 million starving refugees who would likely storm over the Northern border like ravaging locusts should any internal weakness or along the border be evident. Wouldn't be prudent, no sir. Can't have that happen when you're trying to put on a good face for all the world to see. It would be a humanitarian crisis of unbelievable proportion. Oh, and now the N. Koreans have nukes, too.
Not good for China. Not good for neighboring nations/states that feel they now require nukes in order to maintain a balance of power. China suddenly finds itself within a building nuclear arms race against nations who previously didn't consider them necessary. Particularly Japan.
The Russians sit back and laugh...
Sorry y'all, but the South Park "Urinal Duke" episode really got me on the "conspiracy line" of thought this morning...
It's as if NK is the AntiPerot of international nuclear nonproliferation, with the Chinese and Americans playing Democrat and Republican.
China’s Reversal?
By John E. Carey
October 15, 2006
On Saturday, October 14, 2006, the United Nation’s Security Council passed a unanimous fifteen nation resolution condemning North Korea for its nuclear test last week. The Associated Press reported that, “The vote came after the United States, Britain and France overcame last-minute differences with Russia and China.”
The Security Council noted North Korea’s “flagrant disregard” of the council’s appeal not to detonate a nuclear device.
“The Security Council has adopted one of the most important decisions in recent times on an issue of great concern to the international community, that of nonproliferation,” Japanese Ambassador Kenzo Oshima said after the vote.
While the unanimous action of the Security Council is heartening, yesterday’s news is even more about China than about the United Nations or the Security Council. Before last July 4, China had worked to persuade North Korea not to conduct long range missile test. Then when it became apparent that North Korea might conduct a nuclear test, China again resolutely went to work to persuade North Korea not to proceed.
When North Korea did conduct its apparent nuclear test, that may have been the last straw for China.
China is North Korea’s neighbor and provides about 70% of its oil and 40% of its food. Beijing doesn’t want the sanctions to cause the unstable regime in Pyongyang to collapse, sending refugees flooding across the border into China.
Nonetheless, on Saturday, October 14, 2006, China actually voted with the United States on a resolution against North Korea.
When was the last time that China voted with the United States and against North Korea?
Never.
China has repeatedly sided with North Korea since it entered the Korean War in 1950 against the United States and as an ally to North Korea.
What caused China most concern in negotiating the Security Council resolution, we are told, is China’s severe trepidation that war could erupt on the Korean peninsula. For that reason, China encouraged the language in the security Council resolution that rules out the use of force against North Korea.
But nations decide their own foreign policy based upon their own needs, goal and perception: not what the Security Council tells them. So North Korea knows, just because the Security Council failed to make force an option, that option is still on the table in several nations.
China also said it would vote in the affirmative, even with the language in the resolution supporting inspections like that fostered by the U.S. led Proliferation Security Initiative, but that it would not itself participate in any inspections. China views the inspections as a potentially provocative action that could ignite hostilities.
Saturday’s Security Council vote was a watershed for the U.S., the U.N. and China.
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We must all keep in mind that everything we are seeing is
disinformation.
If nuclear missiles WERE aimed at china from that close, do
any think that "most irritating" would be the term used to describe it?
Think Cuban missile crisis for a similar episode.
Kim's going to keep spitting in the face of China until China decides the 'free ride' is over.
The man is not only dangerous to it's enemies, but to it's friends as well.
What a load of crap. Hopefully our boys won't buy it for a second like I didn't. NK is the perfect proxy for China's ambitions. No matter what happens in NK, no one will stand up against the Pot bellied dictator. Even in China, or, say, Iran that is not the case.
bttt
How about we agree to give China N.Korea if they leave Taiwan alone.
I think NOrth Korea is a lot more dangerous to the chineese then they are to the u.s. It's a location prozimity thing.
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