Posted on 09/27/2006 6:50:46 AM PDT by Republicain
It looks as if immigrants youths want to turn nightly rioting during the Islamic holy month of ramadan into an annual tradition. Around 8:30pm last night violence erupted again in Brussels, the capital of Europe. The riots centered on the Brussels Marollen quarter and the area near the Midi Train Station, where the international trains from London and Paris arrive. Youths threw stones at passing people and cars, windows of parked cars were smashed, bus shelters were demolished, cars were set ablaze, a youth club was arsoned and a shop was looted. Two molotov cocktails were thrown into St.Peter’s hospital, one of the main hospitals of central Brussels. The fire brigade was able to extinguish the fires at the hospital, but youths managed to steal the keys of the fire engine.
During the month of ramadan Muslims are required to fast during the day and are only allowed to eat after sunset. As Esther pointed out “What should be noticed about the riots is that they start after sunset. Besides the fact that they start after dark, it also gives the rioters enough time to break their fast and enjoy the traditional family meal. Sunset is around 7:30pm.” Tuesday’s and Monday’s riots began around 8:30pm.
Last night the police arrested 45 rioters. One of them will be prosecuted for assaulting the owner of a shop. Philippe Close, the chef de cabinet of the Mayor of Brussels, Freddy Thielemans, said that the authorities would continue their efforts to defuse the situation in a peaceful manner, but he announced that the police will be less complacent in future, “since we cannot tolerate that this [Marollen] neighbourhood falls victim to a problem from outside the neighbourhood.”
The immigrant youths claim that they are upset by the death of Fayçal Chaaban, a 25-year old criminal, in a Brussels prison last Sunday. Yesterday morning the authorities announced they would hold a meeting with the youths to hear their grievances about security in prison, but the meeting, which was due last night, could not take place because of the riots.
The authorities are especially nervous since the Belgian municipal elections are being held on Sunday October 8th. It is likely that the elections will be won by anti-immigrant, “islamophobic” parties. Since ramadan will not be over on October 8th and many immigrants might perceive a victory of the indigenous right (as opposed to their own far-right) as an insult, Muslim indignation over the election results in major cities may spark serious disturbances. According to a poll published today the Vlaams Belang party is set to win 38.6% of the vote in Antwerp (compared to 33,0% in the previous municipal elections six years ago).
More on this topic (with links to the 2005 Ramadan Riots):
Ramadan Rioting in Brussels, 26 September 2006
When did Brussels become the capital of Europe?
Capital of the EU - it's where EU headquarters are located.
It is likely that the elections will be won by anti-immigrant, "islamophobic" parties. Since ramadan will not be over on October 8th and many immigrants might perceive a victory of the indigenous right (as opposed to their own far-right) as an insult, Muslim indignation over the election results in major cities may spark serious disturbances."How *dare* you duck when I throw things at you?!?"
More info here at Gates of Vienna
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/09/ramadan-2006-burn-rinse-repeat.html
My comment:
But I am much, much more disgusted and angered with real Muslims who are really beheading, raping, slaughtering, bombing and so on infidels and are at this very moment planning more of the same.
Your comment:
Whether or not they're "real Muslims" is certainly debatable
Hmmm - so you're saying that the Muslim jihadis who use Islam as their foundation for murder, rapine, military aggression and the like for nigh on 1400 years aren't real Muslims? Would this also mean that Muslim mullahs, clerics, pirs, ayatollahs and the rest who call for armed jihad aren't really Muslims either? Do you think they'd take kindly to being told they aren't real Muslims?
What are they, then? And who are the "real Muslims"?
Also, please define "bigot". This is not a rhetorical quesion.
"...Muslim indignation over the election results in major cities may spark serious disturbances..."
There's only one alternative I can suggest to the good people of Brussels, the capitol of EU europe...
CONVERT! BAN DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS WHICH QUITE OBVIOUSLY ARE THE CAUSE OF RIOTS!
sarc
The Prophet Muhammad in his last sermon, said "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds" and earlier and more explicitly, "No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself." If that means Khomenei wasn't a real Muslim, then so be it.
Do you think they'd take kindly to being told they aren't real Muslims?
Some wouldn't some would. It depends on the sincerity of their belief and their willingness to live acording to God's rules.
Also, please define "bigot".
Someone intolerante of other viewpoints and unwilling to change his own, even in the face factual evidence that contradicts his beliefs. Interestingly, Websters puts its origin in a 16th century word of French derivation meaning a superstitious religious hypocrite.
"many immigrants might perceive a victory of the indigenous right (as opposed to their own far-right) as an insult"
Muslims are as fond of insults as they are of jihad.
...The fire brigade soon had it under control but couldn't prevent the youngsters from stealing the keys of a few ambulances parked on the hospital grounds....
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/english/details/060927brusselsriots/index.shtml
Well, back to the 7th century, but when you're that screwed, who's counting...
After each widely publicized expose of Communist crimes starting with the 1955 Party speech by Nikita Khrushchev and on through Hungary 1956, Prague '68, Kambodia, Poland 1981,and so on, the Western apologists would come up with the same old line concocted perhaps by the KGB - "this is not real communism", "these are not real Communists". Look at _____________ (here the name of another country where Communist crimes have not yet been uncovered: Cuba, Vietnam, or Nicaragua, and so on.)
Well, the simple and obvious answer to this weak attempt at diversion was (and is when it comes to the murderous Islam) is that perhaps, that is not real Communism, and those are not real Communists, but this is Communism (or Islam) that we currently know and these are the Communists (or Muslims) that we currently have to deal with. Are they not real?l
I didn't know that Brussels was the capitol of Europe...?
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Nail on the head responses.
Well, the factual evidence is that Muslims have been slaughtering in the name of God for 1400 years. Whether some instructions in the Koran contradict other instructions - I couldn't care less.
The fact is that virtually every Moslem east, north, south and west of Saudi Arabia is a descendent of someone forced into Islam. The butchery and aggression done in the name of Islam is not imaginary, and continues to this very day.
I am not a bigot. Hating slaughter performed as a religious act is not bigotry, it is sanity.
I have a question for you - are you a Muslim by any chance? And what country do you live in?
By Jove, I think there's something to your analysis.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709732/posts
Suicide bombers follow Quran,
With suicide bombings spreading from Iraq to Afghanistan, the Pentagon has tasked intelligence analysts to pinpoint what's driving Muslim after Muslim to do the unthinkable.
Their preliminary finding is politically explosive: it's their "holy book" the Quran after all, according to intelligence briefings obtained by WND.
In public, the U.S. government has made an effort to avoid linking the terrorist threat to Islam and the Quran while dismissing suicide terrorists as crazed heretics who pervert Islamic teachings.
"The terrorists distort the idea of jihad into a call for violence and murder," the White House maintains in its recently released "National Strategy for Combating Terrorism" report.
But internal Pentagon briefings show intelligence analysts have reached a wholly different conclusion after studying Islamic scripture and the backgrounds of suicide terrorists. They've found that most Muslim suicide bombers are in fact students of the Quran who are motivated by its violent commands – making them, as strange as it sounds to the West, "rational actors" on the Islamic stage.
(there's more at the link.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmlkWOzIREA
Amateur cellphone video of burning cars in Brussels.
Bookmarked. Always something new on this great inovation- the internet. Delicate fusion of colours appreciated.
Here's a great thread with lots of information for anyone who thinks that armed jihad is not really Islam:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1708914/posts
Dhimmitude for Dummies
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