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To: zimdog

My comment:
But I am much, much more disgusted and angered with real Muslims who are really beheading, raping, slaughtering, bombing and so on infidels and are at this very moment planning more of the same.

Your comment:
Whether or not they're "real Muslims" is certainly debatable


Hmmm - so you're saying that the Muslim jihadis who use Islam as their foundation for murder, rapine, military aggression and the like for nigh on 1400 years aren't real Muslims? Would this also mean that Muslim mullahs, clerics, pirs, ayatollahs and the rest who call for armed jihad aren't really Muslims either? Do you think they'd take kindly to being told they aren't real Muslims?

What are they, then? And who are the "real Muslims"?

Also, please define "bigot". This is not a rhetorical quesion.


205 posted on 09/27/2006 5:56:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Hmmm - so you're saying that the Muslim jihadis who use Islam as their foundation for murder, rapine, military aggression and the like for nigh on 1400 years aren't real Muslims? Would this also mean that Muslim mullahs, clerics, pirs, ayatollahs and the rest who call for armed jihad aren't really Muslims either?

The Prophet Muhammad in his last sermon, said "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds" and earlier and more explicitly, "No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself." If that means Khomenei wasn't a real Muslim, then so be it.

Do you think they'd take kindly to being told they aren't real Muslims?

Some wouldn't some would. It depends on the sincerity of their belief and their willingness to live acording to God's rules.

Also, please define "bigot".

Someone intolerante of other viewpoints and unwilling to change his own, even in the face factual evidence that contradicts his beliefs. Interestingly, Websters puts its origin in a 16th century word of French derivation meaning a superstitious religious hypocrite.

207 posted on 09/27/2006 7:43:37 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: little jeremiah
A little trip down the memory lane is in order.

After each widely publicized expose of Communist crimes starting with the 1955 Party speech by Nikita Khrushchev and on through Hungary 1956, Prague '68, Kambodia, Poland 1981,and so on, the Western apologists would come up with the same old line concocted perhaps by the KGB - "this is not real communism", "these are not real Communists". Look at _____________ (here the name of another country where Communist crimes have not yet been uncovered: Cuba, Vietnam, or Nicaragua, and so on.)

Well, the simple and obvious answer to this weak attempt at diversion was (and is when it comes to the murderous Islam) is that perhaps, that is not real Communism, and those are not real Communists, but this is Communism (or Islam) that we currently know and these are the Communists (or Muslims) that we currently have to deal with. Are they not real?l

212 posted on 09/27/2006 8:33:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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