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Clinton, bin Laden, Wag The Dog and Fox News
self | 9/24/2006 | Technomage

Posted on 09/24/2006 9:03:18 AM PDT by technomage

After reading parts of the FoxNews Sunday transcript of the interview between Wallace and Clinton, something stuck out to me.

Clinton keeps claiming that 'right wing conservatives' were constantly complaining that he was too obsessed with bin Laden. I have mentioned previous that I have no memories of that happening. What I do remember is conservatives in general complaining about his obsession with Monica.

But, getting back to that claim that conservatives were complaining that Clinton was too obsessed with bin Laden.

After watching the rant, oops, interview, Clinton slipped up. He showed his cards by uttering three little words: wag the dog.

It was like a light bulb going off in my head.

Now it made sense. Clinton is once again 'mixing' historical events to conform to what he wants the world to remember.

Conservatives did use the wag the dog reference numerous times, not in reference to bin Laden, but in reference to Clinton's massive bombardment of Serbia, which had absolutely nothing to do with bin Laden.

Clinton, in the interview basically says, and I paraphrase:

conservatives were complaining that I was obsessed with bin Laden, you know the wag the dog references.

THAT is the statement that shows that either Clinton is having memory problems and mixing up events, or is lying.

All the wag the dog references in the 90's had nothing to do with bin Laden, but had everything to do with Serbia and Milosevic, as far as my meager memory serves. I may be wrong, and I may be unaware of statements to the contrary but as far as I can remember, all those references were regarding Milosevic and Serbia.

Claiming that 'right wing conservatives' were complaining that Clinton was obsessed with bin Laden is an outright lie. But to try and prove it by using the wag the dog reference was a stupid move on his part and illuminated his lack of facts to back it up. And in my view, invalidated the rest of the rant, er interview.


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To: magoo70804

Correct and I believe the term Wag the Dog was also used when he launched a multiple day attack of Cruise missles against Iraq on the days Monica was testifying and the missle launches ended on the day her testimony ended .


141 posted on 09/24/2006 1:25:55 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: magoo70804

Correct and I believe the term Wag the Dog was also used when he launched a multiple day attack of Cruise missles against Iraq on the days Monica was testifying and the missle launches ended on the day her testimony ended .


142 posted on 09/24/2006 1:25:56 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: t2buckeye
The Dayton Peace Accords for Bosnia were in the latter part of 1995 (Clinton needed to get that topic out of the news before his re-election campaign)...there hasn't been any major violence in Bosnia since then, nothing to warrant threats of air strikes. The trouble in 1998 had to do with Kosovo...there were threats of air strikes but I don't think any actual air strikes on Kosovo or Serbia proper until 1999.

The "wag the dog" attacks in 1998 were against Iraq or suspected terrorist targets. The terrorist attacks in Kenya and Tanzania occurred on Aug. 7, 1998...ostensibly Clinton's attacks on Aug. 20 were in retaliation for them.

143 posted on 09/24/2006 3:20:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: technomage

How smart is it for the "smartest politician in the world" to remind people of his failed Presidency, Monica Lewinsky, his lying in front of the cameras, wagging the dog, and wagging his finger?

He calculated that his strong, assertive, take no s**t attacks on Chris Wallace would rally his base for Hillary and his legacy. He didn't count on waking up the rest of the country and reminding them of the 90's and why it is so important to get rid of these people once and for all..


144 posted on 09/24/2006 3:25:14 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO WANT TO TAKE OVER YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: Cincinna

There were plenty of warnings. In July of 1999, Bill Clinton's third Secretary of Defense, William S. Cohen, wrote a startling op-ed piece in the Washington Post, flatly predicting a terrorist attack: "In the past year, dozens of threats to use chemical or biological weapons in the United States have turned out to be hoaxes. Someday, one will be real." This was not routine language from a Secretary of Defense. "I watched carefully to see if anyone followed up on this," Leslie H. Gelb, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, said. "But none of the television networks and none of the élite press even mentioned it. I was astonished."


http://tinyurl.com/n3dqm


145 posted on 09/24/2006 3:26:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Yaelle

Defense Secretary William Cohen, in an interview with CNN's Judy Woodruff, said the goal of any military strike would be to "degrade" Hussein's capability of producing weapons of mass destruction.

"It is not our goal to remove Saddam Hussein," Cohen said. He also said any military action would involve air strikes and that the United States has no plans to introduce ground troops into Iraq.


http://tinyurl.com/rxtjc


146 posted on 09/24/2006 3:28:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TexKat

Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam


By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Clinton administration talked about firm evidence linking Saddam Hussein's regime to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network years before President Bush made the same statements.

The issue arose again this month after the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States reported there was no "collaborative relationship" between the old Iraqi regime and bin Laden.

Democrats have cited the staff report to accuse Mr. Bush of making inaccurate statements about a linkage. Commission members, including a Democrat and two Republicans, quickly came to the administration's defense by saying there had been such contacts.

In fact, during President Clinton's eight years in office, there were at least two official pronouncements of an alarming alliance between Baghdad and al Qaeda. One came from William S. Cohen, Mr. Clinton's defense secretary. He cited an al Qaeda-Baghdad link to justify the bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.


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147 posted on 09/24/2006 3:30:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Texas Songwriter

report was published by The Weekly Standard in its July 5-12 issue. Stephen F. Hayes, author of the new book "The Connection: How al-Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America," says Clinton administration officials in the late 1990s and beyond were making regular references to Saddam, his WMD programs and association with al-Qaida.

For example, Hayes writes that just two years ago, in July 2002, former Clinton State Department spokesman James Rubin hosted a PBS documentary that examined "the nature of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein."

"Ten years after the Gulf War and Saddam is still there and still continues to stockpile weapons of mass destruction," Rubin said. "Now there are suggestions he is working with al-Qaida, which means the very terrorists who attacked the United States last September may now have access to chemical and biological weapons."

As Hayes notes, Rubin – who is now John Kerry's senior presidential campaign adviser – said earlier this month on a cable talk show that he wasn't responsible, as the host, for producing the content of the program.

"Fair enough," Hayes writes. "But on the PBS program, Rubin spoke in a manner that suggested he did, in fact, believe the evidence presented by [the show's producer, investigative filmmaker Gwynne] Roberts, pressing one interview subject about the possibility of Saddam's passing weapons of mass destruction to 'the al Qaeda people in the film he's already trained.'"

Clinton-Gore 'Amnesia'

Hayes goes on to point out that the most "striking case of political amnesia" goes to the top two Clintonites – former Vice President Gore and the man himself, Bill Clinton.

On June 24, "Today" show co-host Katie Couric, not known for her tenacity of questioning regarding Democrats and liberals, interviewed Clinton and asked, "What do you think about this connection that Cheney, that Vice President Cheney continues to assert between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida?"

Clinton, of course, didn't know. "All I can tell you is I never saw it, I never believed it based on the evidence I had."

The same day, Gore – in a venomous speech at Georgetown University School of Law – accused Bush of "intentionally misleading the American people by continuing to aggressively and brazenly assert a linkage between al-Qaida and Saddam Hussein. If he is not lying, if he genuinely believes that, that makes them [sic] unfit in battle against al-Qaida. If they believe these flimsy scraps, then who would want them in charge?"

Really?


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148 posted on 09/24/2006 3:33:43 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

This was the first time I have ever watched Bill Clinton do an interview. The first few minutes I came to the conclusion that Clinton would be a perfect used school bus salesman for "Chocolate" Ray Nagin.

Buy this bus and I will throw in a couple of boat paddles.........


149 posted on 09/24/2006 3:39:29 PM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: Howlin

Lady, the spinning (read lying in gross manner) was astonishing. Chris Waalace was cowered into cooperating with the revisionism, sadly. Did sinkEmperor make some effort to get bin Laden? Yes. Was he actually brave enough (politically) to lead against terrorism? Absolutely not, because clinton is/was not a leader but a follower of polls. That makes the gross liar a feckless mouse. No wonder he's cowered by hatellary and in his sociopathic mind has to chase interns and tell network interviewers who even hint at getting to the truth that that interviewer is dishonest and threatening him, the sikEmperor. But waht scares the beggebers out me is the number of blind partisan fools so willing to worship this empty degenerate when he lies and mischaracterizes and lies some more, doing all he can to undermine the current administration for the empowerment of the feckless democrats. America is in deep trouble because of this degenerate bastard impeached president and his now grossly-leftist mutated democrat party.


150 posted on 09/24/2006 4:03:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: technomage
As I sat there watching Clinton implode mentally, explode physically....

..and listened to all his 'catch phrases' and obfuscating verbiage....

...it was crystal clear to me this man will end up in a looney bin.....sooner rather than later.

151 posted on 09/24/2006 4:13:17 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: technomage

Clinton is full of it and when his finger waves around like that it should be wearing a condom.


152 posted on 09/24/2006 4:40:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: kcvl
06 November 1998 TEXT: US GRAND JURY INDICTMENT AGAINST USAMA BIN LADEN

New York -- A U.S. Federal Grand Jury in New York on Nov. 5 issued an indictment against Usama Bin Laden alleging that he and others engaged in a long-term conspiracy to attack U.S. facilities overseas and to kill American citizens.

The indictment noted that Al Qaeda, Bin Laden's international terrorist group, forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in Sudan and with the government of Iran and with its associated group Hezballah to "work together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States."

Additionally, the indictment states that Al Qaeda reached an agreement with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons development.

Saddam link to Bin Laden

Terror chief 'offered asylum' in Iraq? US says dealings step up danger of chemical weapons attacks

By Julian Borger in Washington
Saturday February 6, 1999
The Guardian 

The Western nightmare: Saddam and Bin Laden versus the world

Even before the embassy bombings in Africa, US special forces had been rehearsing daring 'grab raids' aimed at fighting their way into Mr Bin Laden's mountain lair in Afghanistan and either abducting or assassinating him. But such an operation would almost certainly involve high American casualties and - like missile attacks - would require highly accurate information about the whereabouts of Mr Bin Laden.

153 posted on 09/24/2006 6:45:13 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: kcvl
He cited an al Qaeda-Baghdad link to justify the bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.

From:

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/fullreport.pdf

Though intelligence gave no clear indication of what might be afoot, some intelligence reports mentioned chemical weapons, pointing toward work at a camp in southern Afghanistan called Derunta.On November 4, 1998, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York unsealed its indictment of Bin Ladin, charging him with conspiracy to attack U.S. defense installations. The indictment also charged that al Qaeda had allied itself with Sudan, Iran, and Hezbollah.The original sealed indictment had added that al Qaeda had “reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.”109 This passage led Clarke, who for years had read intelligence reports on Iraqi-Sudanese cooperation on chemical weapons, to speculate to Berger that a large Iraqi presence at chemical facilities in Khartoum was “probably a direct result of the Iraq–Al Qida agreement.” Clarke added that VX precursor traces found near al Shifa were the “exact formula used by Iraq.”110This language about al Qaeda’s “understanding” with Iraq had been dropped, however, when a superseding indictment was filed in November 1998.
154 posted on 09/24/2006 6:54:40 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: socal_parrot

I wear no socks when I am informal. When I have something to say to someone respectable in a public setting, I wear socks to the knee. Surely the horny hick knows better.


160 posted on 09/24/2006 10:21:43 PM PDT by ashtanga
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