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Senate panel defies Bush on terror
Associated Press ^ | ANNE PLUMMER FLAHERTY

Posted on 09/14/2006 12:57:54 PM PDT by 300magnum

WASHINGTON - A rebellious Senate committee defied President Bush on Thursday and approved terror-detainee legislation he has vowed to block, deepening Republican conflict over a key issue in the middle of congressional campaigns.

Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., chairman of the Armed Services Committee, pushed the measure through his panel by a 15-9 vote, with Warner and two other GOP lawmakers joining Democrats. The tally set the stage for a showdown on the Senate floor as early as next week.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egobeforecountry; goobergraham; mccain; mclaim; osamahasrights; waronterror; weasel; wot
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To: clintonh8r

I think there would be a vastly different view of the conflict were in right now if that one plane had hit, or hit very near, the capitol!

I have absolutely no use for either the House or the Senate at this point in my life! They have become fat, dumb and happy while pursuing only those matters that benefit them.

I certainly don't wish them harm, but a good scare would help them to "focus like a laser" on the threat we face.


61 posted on 09/14/2006 1:26:31 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: ZULU
he may be anticipating he's not [getting the Republican nomination], and planning an independent run in 2008.

There is already a pollster out there trying to prove that a third party run is viable for '08. I wonder who commissioned that poll.

62 posted on 09/14/2006 1:26:42 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Dog
If you REALLY want to get mad, on the way home on the radio I heard that these three yahoos were backed up by (ta-da) COLIN POWELL!!!

I hereby retract anything good I ever had to say about that jerk, who has been trying to run his own program since he got the SOS nomination.

I am furious!!!!

63 posted on 09/14/2006 1:27:50 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: 300magnum

These 3 Stoodge could of done this behind close doors. This is nothing but a cheap PR stunt. Are they really this stupid? Are they really these 3 really this desperate to be the Minority?


64 posted on 09/14/2006 1:27:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (New Democrat Talking Point: Rove made us do it!)
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To: onyx

Also trying to back-stab Bush on Judicial nominations, McCain-Feingold and anti-Second Amendment.

If Democrats registered as Republicans, he'd be a shoe-in.


65 posted on 09/14/2006 1:27:56 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Graham almost always follows McCain's lead, but I am wondering if McCain isn't following Graham's legal expertise on this vote?


66 posted on 09/14/2006 1:28:06 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: 300magnum
If Warner, McCain and Graham have Presidential ambitions this is good ammunition for their primary opponents.

"McCain, working to put the constitutional rights of terrorist first, victims last".

"McCain, working to make those who wish to kill Americans safe and secure".

"McCain, thinking he is making captured Americans safe but too ignorant to realize terrorist do not follow Geneva Convention guidelines or our rules of engagement".
67 posted on 09/14/2006 1:28:51 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Bahbah
Genius Graham says this is not the last war we are going to fight and he doesn't want to endanger our troops who are captured in the next one.

Because the other wars we were in were model applications of Geneva conventions. In North Korean prison camps, our troops got to play sports and be (re)educated. The Japanese were practically running a luxury resort. They were nearly killing our guys with kindness.

All that goes away if we allow Red Hot Chili Peppers to be played at terrorists past 10pm. They might start playing a little rough themselves.

68 posted on 09/14/2006 1:29:03 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: ZULU
If Democrats registered as Republicans, he'd be a shoe-in.

That's the scary part. Several states allow cross over voting.

69 posted on 09/14/2006 1:29:53 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Steel Wolf
We disregard a law meant to protect civilians by not executing the al-Qa'ida we catch.

Sounds like we may be making a very big mistake.

70 posted on 09/14/2006 1:29:57 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Bahbah

Either him or Hitlery.

Wonder what he's call his party?

The Eggs Benedict Arnold Party? He can use a rotten agg as the symbol.


71 posted on 09/14/2006 1:31:17 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: rollo tomasi
If Warner, McCain and Graham have Presidential ambitions this is good ammunition for their primary opponents.

Politically, they are going to regret this big time.

72 posted on 09/14/2006 1:31:45 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Bahbah
Hey Senator Garham,

OUR Enemies DO NOT abide by the Geneva Convention NOW. Why are you such a complete idiot? Don't you get it clown. Our enemies SPIT on our rule book. They care LESS what legalism mambo jumbos you whip up. Your arguments are totally ignorant. The bleeping US Code did not protect anyone in Nam and has not protected anyone in Afghanistan and Iraq. You are such an idiot. You simply are too stupidly arrogant to LISTEN to reality and arrogantly cling to your stupid notions rather then LISTEN to the WH.

Senator, might as well prepare to be a ONE termer.
73 posted on 09/14/2006 1:32:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (New Democrat Talking Point: Rove made us do it!)
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To: 300magnum
Just another problem in fighting yet another "un-declared" WAR!

When will we learn?

74 posted on 09/14/2006 1:33:16 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: MNJohnnie
Senator, might as well prepare to be a ONE termer.

He really needs to go ... any names on who could beat him?

75 posted on 09/14/2006 1:33:27 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: onyx

Not enough states allow it. Democrats will have their own hotly contested 2008 race to vote in. McCain is finished politically. He just does not know it.


76 posted on 09/14/2006 1:33:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (New Democrat Talking Point: Rove made us do it!)
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To: Dog

Tried to get her website.

Its apparently DOWN!!

Was only able to get some information on her from the Commie Wilkipedia.

She was one of the "Gang of Fourteen", supports abortion "rights", supports stem cell research, and has broken with mainstream Republicans on numerous occassions.

She is a fit companion for her fellow representative from Maine - Olympia Snowe.

ALL of this makes the RNC support of that rat Chaffee all the MORE indigestible.


77 posted on 09/14/2006 1:33:47 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Are they really these 3 really this desperate to be the Minority?

I've speculated a theory called the Law of Political Parity it goes like this:
When one party gets too many seats in the Senate they have to blow it, otherwise they'd have to make good on their campaign promises, which they don't really want to do. This law applied to both parties equally.

78 posted on 09/14/2006 1:34:26 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (who needs terrorists?)
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To: debg
Take a Poll of Likely Republican Voters in South Carolina and blast it on the airways.

It is kryptonite to a MEDIA WHORE like Graham.

I want this Un-AMERICAN pig out of the Senate.

I do not want other GOP members punished for Graham's actions.

Rather, a GOP victory among those people who defy Graham would be the slap in the face he deserves.
79 posted on 09/14/2006 1:34:53 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: onyx
I am wondering if McCain isn't following Graham's legal expertise on this vote?

If you can think well enough to find your shoes in the morning, you can see the illogic in Graham's "thinking" on this. I dont' think McCain is defering to Goober's expertise. This is the result he wants.

80 posted on 09/14/2006 1:35:13 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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