He really needs to go ... any names on who could beat him?
What the enemy does isn't the point. What makes the enemy the enemy is his total disregard for law, order and humanity. What makes us better than the enemy is our respect for all three of those things. I'm not a great admirer of McCain, but I see where he's coming from. The aim of these swine is to make us abandon our values and fight in the sewers with them. They are prepared to die in order to do so.
They despise the fact that people can exist in a world without fear, because a world without fear is difficult for maniacs like the islamists to control. So they want to make us fear them. And judging by posts in this thread ('They are going to kill us all!!!!!') it sounds like we're handing them victory on a silver platter. They are using fear to make us abandon the only principles that make us greater than they.
Besides, we aren't dealing with Nazi Germany. We aren't dealing with Imperial Japan. We're dealing with, at most, a country with a GDP that's barely a 'third of Rumsfeld's defence budget' (George Will on Iran) and at least a few hormonal, sex-starved jihadists with a God complex. These people are not going to 'kill us all'. We have nothing to fear from these shiesters, because they cannot defeat our faith and decency with no amount of bombs uless we sacrifice it willingly.
The worry that the likes of McCain and myself have with the use of torture has nothing to do with being nice to the wee terrorist. It's about being sure that the federal government (you know, that establishment that Republicans used to be justifiably wary of) can't abuse it. That ten years down the line we don't have to worry about a Demcorat president rounding up anti-gay marriage protesters because they pose a threat to national security.
We don't need torture to beat these dick-heads. We just need patience, tenacity, and a realisation that these people don't amount to a hill of ants compared to what the US has conquered in the past. Fear? I fear nothing from these swine.